It is volume 51 (50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0)
This is a part of a raw and uneven journal of discovering the origins of the writing systems,
so I recommend you to read the summary of this work instead.



And But

И     Nо

ا       不



不是 [буши] нет
是的 [шиде] да
as is де ~ да


yes is also
对 [duì]
诺 [nuò]
唯 [wéi]

it's strange that 是 is not in the list, because g.t. translates it like that, but it seems 是 is "is" because it is also translated as "be", and "correct" and "right" and "exist".
的 [de] is translated by g.t. as of (and "possessive particle" and "really and truly" and "aim" and "ablative causive suffix" and "-self")

对 & 的 are of different fonts, but my unicode offers them at ctrlshiftV
对 [dui] and 的 [de] have similar rightmost parts, and I wonder if that is the phonetic part (kanji have those and 语 has it at the rightmost corner. speech is literally five in chinese mind and tongue. And it is the right half of that thing, here's how 语 is in japanese: 語
but g.t. translates 语 from chinese into japanese as 言語[gengo])
言语[yányǔ]

寸 [cùn (цўэ́н)] ~inch (unit of length)
勺 [sháo (ша́о)] spoon

so, saddened by the filure of that guess, I refocus onto a language I know much better:



And But Can Dog

An Be Co Do
As
At
All
Are

Are Be iS (es, est (t is short for third person))

Am Be eSt

Are
Am 
        Be
              eSt, is~it, це, С (shaky, because it's all an improvisation)

(I started to play with the simplest words and they were three-letter, then I looked for two-letters and
Are
Am  

aR is plural form of aM
(M is me, R is similar to plural -lar and -ir (lar is turkic, ir is norsk))
R is They? somehow, but ч an d  such, I feel it becfore I can ponder on it.

am ~ езмь
are ~ еси   и суффикс множественного числа, значит r of are and и of еси are ir
And here I see that еси значит будь а не являемся. Я не знаю старорусского.
Следуем ли мне учить его или оставить эту часть его знатокам.
Самому им становиться. Срамно русскому старорусского не знать.



and another escapade into a language I only hardly know:


The following, from the Egyptian god family tree (Briggs, A60/2015)[1], shows Thoth 𓁟 [C3], the math 🧮 [Q3] and letter 🔠 god, and Seshat, the number 🔢 and groma 𓋇 [R20] goddess, joining to form or make, over evolutionary linguistic transmission, the English language:

It that image Seshat seems to be telling Thoth what to write, which correlates the image from the previous volume, in which while Thoth was also writing something, he was looking at what Seshat had written.

🧮 abacus emoji
🔠 latin uppercase emoji
🔢 numbers emoji

and naturally there's latin lowercase emoji: 🔡
and there's also these:
🔤 latin letters
and the only other one in the set of blue squares is even weirder 🔣 symbols emoji

That page also included this modern representation, and though it's goofy, it contains additional information, which may matter:

Those scrolls remind audio tapes so much it's crazy. Just as tapes may have one album on one side and the other on the other one, so the scrolls could have one tale on one side and the other on the other one.
And just as tapes may have one album separated into half to the whole casette, so the scrolls could have one work in halves.

Were numbers the origin of letters?

Is it not letters we use as numerals, but numbers as letters?


I actually wonder if Groma is also attributed to her. I recently read that her invention was ropes with knots to be pulled to measure walls, and maybe those ropes were tied to gromas to keep those poles, to which the rope was connected, vertical.
And here's the image showing that groma was used not like I just said, that it's not directly connected to the measuring rope (compare rope and rod)


They probably measured the distance between the top and the botom of the vertical ropes
But then how do I now that the top line is not the rope? because it's shown by ----- the - - - - - -

Here, a better presentation:




Was Thoth a plague doctor? That nose I saw there, and who knows how ancient is the technology.



𓏯   Z5  U+133EF  Diagonal stroke (from hieratic)   Can be used as a replacement for signs perceived to be dangerous to actually write
(Grok tells those were depictions of dangerous animals or humans in intimidating postures)





Here, a great example of } which makes me love it, also because we have nothing else, and >like forms would take too much place and who knows if it was even understood. } and even more rare form of it { are double ʃ    (is ( ~ double ſ ?)    капецы я мастер конечно последовательности служебныъх символов в последовательности превращать осмысленные (~ as an object next to ( fascinates me)
and here ( used not in its functional form bugs me too.
Somehow brackets facilitate the comprehension, only they make the sequences of the special symbols longer:
("~" as an object next to "(" in an accurately grammatically correct text fascinates me)




Я кумашедший частая прик приговорка у меня


к ~ c (c ~ от)
k ~ c  are exactly  here ~ there, becauyse k is pornoncesd closer to us, than s.
And in japanese: kore is here, sore is there.

А нашёл я это в том, что к нам пришёл, с того села.
x as a crossroad, depicting roads
k & s   as A & B
(but more of  B & A)
𐤀 is A which looks like k sometimes even more (see hebrew cursive)
א is A looks looks like Х[h] and also as X[ks]
While most of B repeats S (or, in other words, S repeats B on all its way
S the Snake the Slang is at the Boam (Tree)
Because ᛏ is ᛐ, ᚱ is binderune ᛦᚹ as it is sometimes:
(actually, ᛣᚹ, but that is literally qu, and the place fits.)
(but ᛦ is r, so isn't ᚱ the ᛦᚹ [rw]?)
(is ᚱ ᛦᚹ and is it йў(jw) which are both sonor, and R is sonor)
(or
ᛆᛒᚦᛂ[e](not ᚽ[h])ᚠᚵᚼ[h](or ᛡ[й, а (e(ᛂ)?)])ᛁᚴᛚᛘ[m](not ᛉ[z, ks])ᚿᚮᚱᛦ[(y)r](or ᛣ[q])ᛋᛏᚢ  bornholm runes
(in this image some different runes are used)


the transliteration was there when I found this image,
and I'm only 80 % certain of that, yet then if it was indeed before me,
how's whoever made the transliteration is more expert than me
(so, general advice to take everything wiht a grain of salt (who knows if it's not modern at all))
But it is so awesome, I suspect it to be everybody's culture, not somebody's fantasy.

The order of those letters in the circle is starlike in comparison to the transliteration.
Because I didn't know it before today, it was transliterated before me.
And also because the glyphs in the transliteration is not cut out of this image,
I couldn't be the one doing it, because that's not how I would do it.
And thus I'm 100 % certain that the transliteration came with the image,
the text below it (the transliteration) is mine.

ᛦᚹ binderune

According to bornholm runes, ᚼ[h](or ᛡ[й, а (e(ᛂ)?)])
that second ᛡ is jor, ger, ior (igor?), for jo and is from From earlier ᛃ (j). accirdubg ti wiktionary

And what is even more spectacular about that calendar, is that the star in the circle is 7-pointed, and only a day before I posted that here I was thinking about 42 = 6×7, thus life is good and evil intertwined, and if hexagram symbolizes evil, then heptagram must symbolize good. And isn't it suspicious, that unicode contains several pentagrams, several hexagrams, but heptagrams it doesn't have, even though there are two possible heptagrams, it doesn't have any.

and I was thining of the one to the right,
which is exactly the one that runic calendar draws
(the one to the left is of Crowley)
(who knows if because he opposed jewery or because it misleads)
Oh wow, check this out:
The heptagram became a traditional symbol for warding off evil in Catholicism.
(and the thing is not in unicode, with all its hexagrams and pentagrams, spooky huh?)
but there's more:
The symbol is also used in Kabbalist Judaism.
The heptagram is used in the symbol for Babalon in Aleister Crowley's occult system Thelema.
(the obtuse, not acute one)
The heptagram is known among neopagans as the Elven Star or Fairy Star. It is treated as a sacred symbol in various modern pagan and witchcraft traditions. Blue Star Wicca also uses the symbol, where it is referred to as a septegram. The second heptagram is a symbol of magical power in some pagan spiritualities.
In alchemy, a seven-sided star can refer to the seven planets which were known to early alchemists, and also, the seven alchemical substances: fire, water, air, earth, sulphur, salt and mercury.
In astrology. For example, the planetary hours, from which comes the names of the days of the week.
In Polynesia, the seven-pointed star is used often in imagery, basket making, tattoos, and is considered to be a symbol of Kanaloa, the first Polynesian navigator.[2][3]
The seven-sided star is an important symbol of the Cherokee people of southern Appalachia, representing the seven clans of the Cherokee and the sacred number seven.

"a seven-sided star can refer to the seven planets which were known to early alchemists" makes me realize, that the points of that calendar's stars are days of the week
(also appointed to different celestial bodies)
and I had this in previous volume:

those are the seven "double" letters, alocated to different celestial bodies.
and only here do I see that acute heptagram includes obtuse heptagram in its centre. Truly a miracle.



частый ~ чистый (чист тот кто много моется, но это лишь отдельный контекст, в котором эта пара типо синонимчна, фрик-тир саенс (good for poetry but not an academic publication))
(I used the word academic in a good sense. Because some of their standards are alright)
(And I long ago removed the notion about academia being a bunch of faggots)
(not because it was explicitly proven wrong, it still wasn't)
(but because I found it enfantile)
(now I expect what Kazansky decides, he seems alright, but he still didn't say yes)
(I can only imagine what Mendel thought waiting his recognition for two decades)
(good thing he was a priest I guess, he prayed and warked for the eternity)
(maybe thus I myself should work not even expecting the recognition, to be surprised when it comes)
(but that would be the cynicism he first obstacle on the path to success)
(I have to promote my work, I have to keep on promoting my work)
(Mendeleev got his recognition almost immediately, because he promoted his worked well)
(And I know his method, only my own flaws stop me from using it)


} ~  ~~
"}"  ~  "~"


Not knowing the correct english term, and not wanting to use blank word line, I wrote three строки below, and if I wrote stroki, that could easily become a term and a borrowing.
И я заметил, что кириллица предотвращает заимствования меж английским и русским:
Так я бы использовал nadsat (why not надсат, btw? because словно надоссан, хотели обоссать, но пожалели англичанина в советском вытрезвителе) и заимствовал его как слэнг. Но так же horrorshow is similar to russian horosho (I think Trump brought this word into the lexicon to point that out что для русского хорошо то что немцу смерть)



I typoed it instead of in
t ~ n.... ᛏᛐ ~ ᚾᚿ ?    nah...    a mindless accident, not subconsciousness speaking business



a thread on X asks people to tell how much 3.5 g  of weed costs where they're, and it's around $25 and that's how I know russian rouble is overpriced af, that's the same way $1 was .98 roubles or something while it was 5 roubles on the black market. And in reality it was even more than that, but probably people who sold them had acces to the .98 rate. (I have to pay $82.15 today, and if I get access to cheaper prices, it's still $45.64, thus $1 is not 76.7 rur, but 150 rur or something.

And I wonder what's the measure 3.5g and I find this to my collection of long and short scales.






Estonian alphabet is something



It has only three letters in the first line, which only bornholm's alphabet has

A B D
E G H
I J K L M N
O P R S T
U V
Õ
Ä
Ö
Ü

A
B D
E
G H I J K
L M N O P R S
T U V
Õ
Ä
Ö
Ü


but then there's the other set of estonian, the one with the letters for the loan words:


A B D
E F G H
I J K L M N
O P R S Š Z Ž T
U V
Õ
Ä
Ö
Ü
                 but this set doesn't lay into the axial symmetry

And the one with whole the set:

Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd, Ee, Ff, Gg, Hh, Ii, Jj, Kk, Ll, Mm, Nn, Oo, Pp, Qq, Rr, Ss, Šš, Zz, Žž, Tt, Uu, Vv, Ww, Õõ, Ää, Öö, Üü, Xx, Yy.

A B C D
E F G H
I J K L M N
O P Q R S Š Z Ž T
U V W
Õ Ä Ö Ü X Y   but this one also doesn't lay into the axial symmetry



ⰁⰂⰃⰄ
ⰆⰇ
ⰉⰊⰋⰌⰍⰎ
ⰓⰔⰕ

ⰛⰜⰝⰞ
ⰟⰠⰡ
ⰣⰤⰥⰦⰧⰨⰩⰫⰬⰭⰰⰱⰲⰳⰴⰵⰶⰷⰸⰹⰺⰻⰼⰽⰾⰿⱀⱁⱂⱃⱄⱅⱆⱇⱈⱉⱊⱋⱌⱍⱎⱏⱐⱑⱒⱓⱔⱕⱖⱗⱘⱙⱚⱛⱜⱝⱞglagolitic

But in this barbaric slavic mess of vowels it makes no sense to try axial symmetry, jeesh, even the lineal symmetry is a joke. But let's try the axial anyway. Let's ignore the final mess ..and it's immediately obvious, that the odd number of consonants before the ⰉⰊⰋ sequence makes it impossible.. so the probability of axial is not 50%, but somewhat less, maybe even much less. And the probability of a pretty rhombus is just wut.. come on, let's consider ⰉⰊⰋ one letter, three variants of those..


Ⰱ Ⰲ

Ⰳ Ⰴ Ⰶ Ⰷ
ⰉⰊⰋ
ⰍⰎⰓⰔⰕ



ⰛⰜⰝⰞ
ⰟⰠⰡ
ⰣⰤⰥⰦⰧⰨⰩⰫⰬⰭ
and it still cannot do it.

but then again I need to see the glagolitic abecedaria first
somehow this thing looks like shapka monomaha on some vertical stand.


I asked Grok of the most ancient glagolitic abecedaria he knows, I was shown some interesting links:





And it is correct, I mean he is correct, the author who posted that thing there. He's right, but then maybe he disinforms me, maybe what this table told is that d and t are sometimes the same (код[кот])
Both accounts are correct. Both accounts are useful. Ч, not the indeed, У is U indeed, and I also was told that ꙋ is ou, not OY, oi! The rest is to be analyzed, I'm not in the mood at the moment, there are more links:

which directly tells before giving this table, Abstract: Although the original Glagolitic alphabet is nowhere preserved in its entirety, considerable evidence remains from which it can be reconstructed. Since this evidence is not self-consistent, it must be weighed..

and a pdf telling that Ⱒ ~ or something
I must admit, Adolf is a great artist, his body looks like a marching swastica, with that raised hand, with that forelock, and the other hand always down, and probablyt the boots.

Ⱒ in these looks more like sun than 卍 and it's also seen that 卍 is all rays, but then why would not example of more rays be seen from time to time? Maybe those are times of the year?

and a best way to start reading it, this:

and a solid abecedary:

and it brings surprises: Ⰴ like д, no Ⰸ after a weirdest form of Ⰷ, I can only guess if that tilted 8 is Ⰽ, Ⱃ like Б, and like b, and it is R, which raises that old question again: isnt' R in Futhark something labial as something after a vowel should be..
let's look it in lenial:
ⰁⰂⰃⰄ
ⰆⰇ
ⰌⰍⰎ
ⰓⰔⰕ
ⰘⰛⰜⰝⰞ
it is some short variant of the set, excluding all these:
ⰉⰊⰙ
ⰟⰠⰡⰤⰥⰦⰧⰨⰩⰫⰬⰭ
But then Ⱞ is probably Ⰿ and others are also variants and digraphs.
Well, without a more concrete example what can I say, let's try axial

ⰁⰂ

ⰃⰄⰆⰇ

ⰌⰍⰎ

ⰓⰔⰕⰘⰛ
ⰜⰝⰞ

it sorta lays into it, sorta
but what symmetry is this.. an accidental one,
very weak, basically non-existent

But then again, if the glagolitic script in that book is authentic and genuine, what is the numerologic side of it? was it made up? a later development maybe? maybe. But then these are 28, which is enough to count up to 900 + 1 additional letter for 1000, which is naturally vowel, because it starts the next order and thus the next row. And Ⰸ is the from the second row, where it is missing, and in that numerologic table it's number nine, transliterated as z,
but that is natural for θ being mistaken for th the ð, but being Ѳ the f


ABCD
E
FGH
I
JKLMN
OPQRST
UVWXYZ


Searching things about alphabet at Quora I found a thread asking for words in alphabetic order, and the first of them is abdest, which is not a simple word:
abdest (uncountable)
    (Islam) The Islamic act of washing parts of the body using water for ritual prayers and for handling and reading the Qur'an.
        Synonym: wudu

        Wuduʾ (Arabic: الوضوء, romanized: al-wuḍūʼ, lit. 'ablution' [wuˈdˤuːʔ] ⓘ) is the Islamic procedure for cleansing parts of the body, a type of ritual purification, or ablution. The steps of wudu are washing the hands, rinsing the mouth and nose, washing the face, then the forearms, then wiping the head, the ears, then washing or wiping the feet, while doing them in order without any big breaks between them.
Wudu is an important part of ritual purity in Islam that is governed by fiqh,[1] which specifies hygienical jurisprudence and defines the rituals that constitute it. Ritual purity is called tahara.
Wudu is typically performed before Salah or reading the Quran. Activities that invalidate wudu include urination, defecation, flatulence, deep sleep, light bleeding (depending on madhhab), menstruation, postpartum status, and sexual intercourse.
Wudu is often translated as "partial ablution", as opposed to ghusl, which translates to "full ablution", where the whole body is washed. An alternative to wudu is tayammum or "dry ablution", which uses clean sand in place of water due to complete water scarcity or if one is suffering from moisture-induced skin inflammation or illness or other harmful effects on the person.
Isn't wild that they do not mention soap?
And they consider pond water sufficient, though fish and others piss into it.
They were simply teaching peasants to wash themselves. They are.
But then there is plenty of other

Я честный, умный, энергичный, но слишком странный чтоб быть CEO.
Я прекрасный визионер, и потому я должен минимально общаться с людьми.
Я хочу быть на передовой научного эксперимента, как пилот мной же собранной купали.
Надо какое-то уникальное слово, чтоб в народ ушло как гугл, ксерокс, cupowl

such a pitch to an investor.

a
an
one   all

b
be    bi    by
bee  bet  buy

c
co
cat
coup [ku]

d
do
die

e
ed eh el en ep eq err yes at
eat

f
of
for

g
go
got

h
hi
hot

I
in
ice

J
Jo
Job

K
Key

L
Lay

M
Me

N
oN No
Not

O
Of   Oh Or
Off

P
Pi
Pie Pay   Pit Pity  

Q
Qu
Que
Queer
Queen
Чёта~Чудо


R
Ra re
Rah Ray

S
aS So
aSk  Soap

T
Ti
Tie Tea

U
Us
Use

V
Vow

W
We
Wow Who Wee

X
eX
eXit

Y
Yo
Yes

Z
Zoo



Pie & Pay & Play are of Pa
Pit & Pity are of Pee (Pit is where they Peeed (it is a good sense to avoid tripling and use a double e instead not to savor, what a sillly workd))

word is what worked,
words work to speak.
to communicate.

pa of punk
pee of peal? appeal? Am I not simplifying the language bending it to my presumptions?

Pack Park Panda P


to make him pity ~ to make him pay
pity ~ pay it? paid?



Looking at this tetraktis,

I notice that the three excluded letters are missing from this thing, and that exactly three points demand connection to the centre. those thus 27, with the added Ϛ Ϟ Ϡ  (or would they be Ϝ Ϟ Ϡ?) well, then in principle there would be six other connections possible: from each corner to the opposite two. But that would be too much of a mess, and though 33 is a famous number, and russian alphabet has exactly 33 letters. And that can be the explanation of why russian alphabet is so distorted from the point of view of this work: it was mutilated to fit the tetraktis. 33 gates of the tetractis?



Moon ~ Lune
Is it why even in Italian L stands where M should be?



Coptic delivers:
Звезда Ремфана (Рефана) — астральный символ языческого божества, упоминаемый в Библии (Амос 5:26, Деяния 7:43), ассоциируемый с планетой Сатурн. Это символ поклонения, который прогневил Бога, часто связывается с древними культами, а в некоторых теориях — с гексаграммой или сатурнианскими культами.
    Библейский контекст: Во время странствий по пустыне иудеи, отвернувшись от Бога, несли «скинию Молохову и звезду бога Ремфана».
    Имя и происхождение: В еврейском тексте бог назван Кийюн (аккад. Кайавану), что связывается с Сатурном. Ремфан — транслитерация из Септуагинты.
    Символика: В оккультизме и некоторых интерпретациях, звезда Ремфана ассоциируется с шестиконечной звездой (гексаграммой), символизирующей сочетание противоположностей или Сатурн.
    Современные трактовки: В альтернативном православии Амвросия Сиверса "римфан" ошибочно или символически связывается с советской пятиконечной звездой.
Не следует путать звезду Ремфана со Звездой Давида (Маген Давид), хотя некоторые конспирологические теории пытаются их отождествлять.
(just a coincidence, huh. Gemini is a jewish ai)
и ⲙⲟⲗⲟⲭ было первым забавным словом, которое я там увидел, Марс, ха, и "скиния Молохова", да
in bengali Mars is Mongol

Egyptian delivers: Jah is moon, sun is Ra!
Но, похоже, что он не Jah, a Yah:
Иероглиф 𓇹 — это полумесяц (crescent moon). По списку Гарднера он обозначается как N11.Как он читался в древнеегипетском:Как идеограмма (логограмма) — чаще всего 3bd (произносится примерно абдж или абед) → «месяц» (лунный месяц, 30 дней).
Как детерминатив — ставился после слов, связанных с луной или временем, например в jꜥḥ / iaḥ / йах — «луна» (бог луны тоже так назывался — Ях / Иах).
Grok (а это он) отрицает связь между Ях и Яхве
В «школьном» чтении египтологов чаще всего говорят просто абед для «месяц».Коротко: 𓇹 ≈ абед / месяц или йах / луна (в зависимости от контекста).
Абед или Абдж, что очень близко к слову абджад. И 12 букв при 4 гласных и трёх типах букв.
Один из самых типичных вариантов (среднее/новое царство и позже):𓄿𓃀𓂧 + 𓇹 (как детерминатив)
Транслитерация: ꜣ b d + детерминатив месяца    Произношение ≈ а-бед / абдж
Часто пишут только начало или конец слова + 𓇹:𓄿𓃀 + 𓇹    (ꜣ b + детерминатив) — комплементарное написание, где первые два согласных подсказывают чтение, а 𓇹 завершает.
Или:𓃀𓂧 + 𓇹    (b d + детерминатив) — конец слова.
all these are rather alphabetic
В большинстве практических текстов (даты на стелах, папирусах) египтяне экономили место и использовали 𓇹 как готовый символ «месяц» — это как если бы мы вместо слова «месяц» просто писали . Фонетические комплементы добавляли, когда:текст был «престижным» (храмовые надписи),    нужно было избежать неоднозначности,
или в поздний период, когда орфография стала более полной.

and I take it seriously (Grok is not likely to be hallucinating here, because other source confirms:
    𓇹 Moon (jꜥḥ)
Month (ꜣbd)
but I still didn't find those transliterations in any text.
Meanwhile, as I was looking for it, I stumbled across this bilingua again:
and at first I was mesmerized by the names of the brothers being Anpu & Bata
The story centers around two brothers: Anpu (Anubis), who is married, and the younger Bata.
(and because Bata loses his penis,
in the opposition of Anubis he reminds Osiris to me, but it could be a hallucination)

and that hait is so much bait (home, house (in hebrew))
which naturally makes me think if 𓉔 is Б the 𐤁
(and it turns me to wonder if hlhm is bdew or something)
And I didn't immediately find the source of this image,
but I found something somewhat better:

(mirror)
Here you can see that hieratic texts comes from right to left,
while the hieroglyphic text goes left to right.
Mostly it is here to start recognizing the hieroglyphs in hieratic hand.
Here the first hieratic line ends at the third 𓈖, leaving a third of the hieroglyphic line for the second line.
Isn't it wonderful how 𓀀 stands the first in the unicode and in hieratic looks like ɑ
𓀁 is the second hieroglyph in the unicode, but it doesn't look like b or B that much:
in hieratic text it's the fifth from the left in the second line from the top.






две формы воды: буль и пс

С чего бы я взял, что слоги будут по японсскому манеру? японские каны дали мне это понимание. Но оно тупо, конечно же были иероглифы, потому что отражали явления, а не структуру.


Панини придумал классификацию звуков или же описал существующую и ему известнвую?



французское спряжение пожоже на русское:

мы говорим ~ nous parlons [ну парлон]  (в канаде говорят on parle [он парль])
(там где у русских м, у французов n)

паралон ~ mousse de caoutchouc ~ foam rubber



вы говорите
vous parlez [ву парле]
е словно суффикс множественного и в говорите и в parlez
ты говоришь ~ tu parles [тю парль (в канаде вместо тю говорят цю)]
он говорит ~ il parle [иль парль]



проебал ~ проиграл
      ебал    ~    играл
copulate ~ played ???


trite ~ too right  That's inspired by Charlie Munger's "if it's trite, it's right" but then is it true? At least russian culture contains many trite yet deminishing and detrimental sayings.

Боится значит уважает. Одно отрицательная эмоция, другая положительная. Тот кто боится желает смерти, а тот кто уважает рискнёт собой чтоб смерть предмета уважения предотвратить.
Это выссказывание путает притворное уважение с истинным. Тот кто боится делает вид, что уважает, чтоб не нарваться на те проявления предмета подобного "важения" которых боится.

Это как Ницше Как Философствуют Молотом, у русских-то в культуре такого мусора ваног и маленькая тележка. тележка телёнка? ребёнок телёнок. тележка коляска. коляска колёсна, тележка to лежать? лёжка

И в голову-то не приходят, попрятались.

Список банальностей — это набор трюизмов, клише и плоских истин, лишенных оригинальности, которые часто используются в речи и текстах, например: «время летит», «жизнь прекрасна», «все будет хорошо», «на вкус и цвет товарищей нет» или «главное — здоровье». Они представляют собой общеизвестные, тривиальные фразы, примитивные суждения, типичные клише, которые делают высказывание неоригинальным.

all of those are alright.
Even though they can be attacked (depends. to whom how. who knows. not true. depends)

на вкус и цвет товарищей нет. Разделительное заклинание, может потому в рашке так мало музыкальных команд крутых, тем более на душу населения.
На самом деле вопрос в том что называть товарищами. Создавать бизнес с поклонниками того же музыкального жанра (в остальном со случайным человеком) наверное не имеет смысла. Нужно начинать его с нужным чуваком.




телёнок уменьшительное от телец и тёлка (телеса)

ребёнок от колгого слово какого слова деминутив? дет ..детинатив? детишки de мишки?
de может быть французской of, но может быть и голландской the.
ти в дети как третье лицо которых много.
 буквально те.
те значит твои?

ребёнок маленький ребе?




wer ~ man (we~мы)
were ~ we're (and were is a rare but viable spelling)
what if werewolf is not wer(man) wolf, but were wolf like now man, but was wolf just a moment ago?


мы we нас us


ΛΜΝ would make much more sense as Λ Μ 𓈖

If 𓈖 is double Μ then Μ can be of three  strokes too, three and a half, just short wave. n is longer wave.
Λ is not even a wave, just a splash.
Λiquid Λужа Λake Λёд Λизать Λить Λепить может тоже, ведь влажной глину лепят.
через Λизать и Λingua of Λiquid, and naturally, Λить ~ Λеть Λечь Речь Речка Река Лека М-леко
леко ~ liquid
М ~ Му ~ короWa? коров ~ k -W ~ coW
with W? W are horns? co ~ with




D

parle бурлит? о да, со всеми этими раскатистыми ррр




The grey woeird stuff is to remind the readers to take it with a grain of salt.
But why though, it's not as if I suffer crowds of fans. Self-sabotage.
come on, it's volume 51, and it contains plenty of treasires.
so it can tolerate some rawer ore and husk.
waste rock is the word, and it's a cool name for a music genre.
(songs sung while wasted)
naturally there are musicians nobody wants to work with because they're drunk all the time,
but what if I record and issue their escapades?
I should give them musical instruments and a room to jam, and


Служенье муз не терпит суеты. Это хорошее. Очень правда. Даже мысли оа заработке денег отбивает муз т.е. вдохновение заниматься словоразборами и алфавитами отпадает.
Но давай попробую, занимаясь письмом иногда "с толкача" заводится.

A B G D
E V Z
H Θ
I K L M N
O P R S T

ϚϛϜϝϞϟϠϡ

and it led nowhere, so I focused on a menial work not requiring revelations to it:

And comapring hieratic to hieroglyphic, I noticed that 𓄿  𓇋  𓇌  all can be transcribed by the same glyph:
(the end of the fourth line and the beginning of the fifth)
and then I noticed that 𓄿 is often omitted from the hieratic text.
and there is a lot to tell about this part, which is only 10% of the whole tale,
so here's the professional commentary which is way better than my babble can be:









































This stone is the best proof of runes existing before latin:
abþ predates abcd becuase three runes are more basal than one,
and they correlate the myths about the invention of alphabet.
They're closer to the source.

that ᛦ is y I didn't make up, I didn't know runes enough to make up anything about them,
I read it where I found the glyphs themselves and found them similar to the set of the stone
Now I also know that ᛦ could also be [r] and that there's another one: ᛣ[k]
so, if ..wait. In those runes it looks like ᛣ, not ᛦ, thus if runologists are alright, I should consider it [q]
and according to the alphabetic order I know from other scripts, ᚱ is whether p or r
R is its runologic reading.
And it makes the order very weird.
Because there are alphabets going pqr and alphabets going pr
there is only one alphabet going r without p: tifinagh.
ⵔ [r] which is very Rah, since tifinagh is right to the right to Egypt, if you see them from the sea.
and what follows only looks like Q: ⵕ, but it is transliterated as ṛ
thus Tifinagh has to r's in a row, and if they are related to runes, ᚱᛦ are rṛ
ⵕ is followed by ⵖ which sounds like [ɣ] which is closer to r than to s or t,
thus ⵖ [ɣ] is the continuation of r-claster.
ⴱⴲⴳⴴⴵⴶⴷⴸⴹⴺⴽⴾⴿⵀⵁⵂⵃⵅⵆⵇⵈⵊⵋⵌⵍⵏⵐⵑⵔⵕⵖⵗⵘⵙⵚⵛⵜⵝⵞⵟⵢⵣⵤⵥⵦⵧ⵰⵿
ⵗ [ɣ] also, just another form of it.
ⵘ is also ɣ, but it is sometimes ʒ.
thus all these are r-claster. and what follows is not q:
ⵙ [s] как в слове сиська
ⵚ is some sˤ, proabably one of those heavy arabic ass's
ⵛ looks like с[s] and c whatever, but it is ʃ, as in shin
ⵜ looks like t and it is t.
but what follows inverts that vowel-labial order.
And I found our Q: ⵗ[q] in Aïr:


ⵘ is an anomaly. is it voiced q or something?
It's all rather anomalous: q is supposed to come before r, not after it.
And it does come before it in the table above, but it is not so in the unicode sequence,
ⴱⴲⴳⴴⴵⴶⴷⴸⴹⴺⴽⴾⴿⵀⵁⵂⵃⵅⵆⵇⵈⵊⵋⵌⵍⵏⵐⵑⵔⵕⵖⵗⵘⵙⵚⵛⵜⵝⵞⵟⵢⵣⵤⵥⵦⵧ⵰⵿
porq?     q                                             
and it recognizes o as w the table above, the unicode sequnece sees it as o

I'm as a bloodhound, caught the trace and follow it.
And these notebooks so to say are very chaotic, and they're supposed to be this way:
they're the new standard of how it is to be done:
I was always annoyed that scientific discoveries are not explain, just declared.
I always wanted to see how the authors came to the conclusions.
And here is how it's happening: по оврагам, буеракам,

this order is the best in placing b and t at the top of it.
and two semi-vowels are at the end.
Here it unites w and u:, while in english w is also u: in new
but I have charts where..
wtf, wait..
ⵓ is not :
that wiki page had to use colon, literally colon that is under w category,
because unicode only draws it as ⵓ
the same thing, and ⵓ is o by its position in unicode: around P as everywhere else, even though from the wrong end, and it's before R, which follows O&P in other alphabets. There's some mess in that line and some stories this difference may tell.


I check wiki in different languages, and french wiki
delivered this weird order, which is as close to english
as hebrew is to phoenician, in other words they're the same

only here o is mistransliterated as some other vowel
and h stands instead of p, which would be totally normal in japanese.
Why would they place them at those very spots,
if those glyphs were not previously recognized as o and p.
The way that weird order where U stands where O should have been
(was that U previously recognized as O as well?)
and the way P is placed before, not after it. Was it "один дурак ляпнул, сто других повторяют" or is there some more sophisticated cause to it?

only chinx, ukrainians and russians seem to know of ⵦ the e
(there's also ⵧ the o, but that's also present in others sometimes)

they found o there, no other wiki tells that there's o, and that glyph, is it rare, is it local,
is it something else?
it suits lmn shapes well
and a different e, so much fit to d the ⴷ:
ⵧ is o in Nigerian Tifinagh Alphabet
ⵦ is e in Nigerian Tifinagh Alphabet
compare it to ⴹ & ⴺ being some forms of d.
how ancient is Nigerian Tifinagh Alphabet?
I heard they do not know how ancient is Tifinagh.
Nigeria is quite sub-saharan.

both d & e as forms of word go, as if иди is both e&дь ⵦ & ⴷ
едут (в отличие от того когда Идут) ноги действительно горизонтально вытянув
(телега от to lay (+ go))
(to облегчить)

Here's dutch wiki's order:


This comparison was presented few pages earlier,
here it made me see how what they transliterated h w z are consistent with E F Г
(and positionally they are literally E F G)

And though berbers didn't bring this script to sub-saharan Africa until recently, there was Nsibidi, which still is the reminder that sub-saharan africans had writing systems before europeans, and they're so indigenous, that I even support lefties for feeding the african pride
(who else is to preserve this uniqueness if not africans themselves)




But these seem rather different from those in the text, as if there are different nsibidis.




1. A young man and his sweetheart.
2. A man and woman sleeping together, the woman was the wife of another man,
3. Four men who caught the man and woman in No. 2 sleeping together. The woman belonged to one of the four men. And the man who was found with her had to bring a calabash of tombo, represented by the circle, and repay the bride price to the husband.
4. A man and woman in bed who are tired of one another, lying back to back, it is the usual sign of a quarrel. When a woman miakes this sign for a man it means that she does not want him to come to her house again.
5. Bush leg irons.
6. The man who put the leg irons on the woman. (Explanation of signs 4 to 6. The woman in No. 4 would not allow the man to have connection with her, so he sent the man in No. 6 to put the bush leg irons, No. 5, on the woman.)
7. Three women and one man. One woman was old and her husband wished to get rid of her, and would not give her food as he wanted a young girl to live with him. The old woman there forecalled her two friends to meet the man and settle the palaver.
8. A man and a child. A stranger had come to the house, so the man told the child to go to the place where he kept his yams ,No. 9, and bring some. The child refused to do what he was told so the man knocked him down.

(such complicated narrative for such a simple symbol. I wonder if they're not making this shit up)

9. The small circle in the centre is the place in the house where the yams were kept, and the long line represents the stranger.
10. The Egbo dress.
11. A inan married two wives, he was fond of one of them who had a child by him and lived with her, entirely neglecting the other woman and treating her very badly. This woman having a pain in her knee went to a lot caster who told her to sharpen a stick and pierce her knee with it. When she had done this a child came out of her knee and the wonan took the child to her friends in the town. When the woman's husband heard of the birth of the child he asked the woman who had given her the child, as he had not had connection with her himself.
12. The man said to the mother of the child, if this child is mine let him go to tlie thunder and get me an elephant's tusk. The child went and met a sick woman in the ferry boat. She told the child to wash her back, and the child did so. She then told him to wash his hands, but he refused and rubbed his body instead. The woman then told the boy not to salute any chiefs, but to walk straight on until he met the thunder, whom he must salute.


(nah, they definitely make this shit up, no need to copy-paste any further. You may click the images for more. But just in case, in case I am ignorant and wrong, I have preserved that page here as well)

But then maybe it's just that source is false and I even shouldn't have mirrored it, because there are readings I can believe:


such great source naturally requires to be mirrored      


symbol ~ simple



Thinking of how sound producers should be considered members of bands because they participated the most to the way it all sounds in the end. Then when they go in tour he should be present, should he not? Or some other producer, tour musician producer. Because they tour as band, not considering all the other workers, engineers there are as well. And what else? all back to the sellers of the music and to the costumers customers. I got distracted, they tour as band and what if they robbed pedestrians to lure them into the concert and it would look as if they robbed them, but they could always tell that they sold the tickets by a hardcore marketing.





Sci-hub delivers: this way they substituted h with j which suddenly may make sense, since j is read as h in spanish, and thus g&j are together. I wonder if it is an accident or if there's a commentary to this.



Dutch shows that g and h are the claster:
berg (гора) айсберг [берх (🔊)]
het (the) это [эт]
leg (lay) ложи́ [лех (с той же хрустящей голландской х)]
neuken (to fuck) среднее меж ночка и койка [нойка, но на самом деле ближе к нёwkã (немка?)]
veilig (безопасный) ве́лик, way лёхкая, veil [вэ́йлих (с той же хрустящей голландской х)]



узел ~ вязал
узнал ~ вызнал
угнал ~ выгнал
убрал ~ выбрал
убил ~ выбил
увёл ~ вывел
увлёк ~ вывлек, а такого слова нет, хотя грамматически смысл понятен. выволок!
вывел тоже выволок? выбил выболок? выбрал выбролок? выгнал выгнолок? лок вообще странное окончание для глагола. глагол заканчивающийся на к, загадка. уволок ещё подходит, но этого же корня, корня волочь, to вёл? упрёк уже не глагол. толок от слова толочь чь это мяхкая форма к?
морок от слова морочить.
порок порочить
брак брачить?
шлак шлачить?
влак влачить, но что такое влак? плак? плачить нет, есть платить но плакать. и плак от плакал.
но когда платят, то капает.
надо чтоб цунами хлынула.
Чтоб сразу пришлось охрану нанимать?
Нужен домик, чтоб охрана не нужна была.
Если из гранатомёта захотят убить, охрана не поможет.
Разные уровни защиты будут включены. Включая внешние, общие.

мок глагол заканчивающийся на к.
мокнуть, но и мочить.
влакнуть? нет. в то же время вякнуть, а не вячить вячить.
брякнут, брякнуть, но и бренчать. венчать от слова вякнуть? о!..
вякая венчает?
вякать какое-то древнее слово означающее говорить?
во в говорить вя в вякать?
тогда р в говорить это к в вякать.
вярать? говокить? говоркать, коверкать
ворковать
говорковать

мрак мрачнеть как бряк бренчать
но нет, там чн, а здесь нч
А ~ Е напоминает je ~ е ~ я

мак маньячить?
мечтать?
мычать?
мочить?
мачить?
мак мачит?
мак может
мак маг

(красиво, но предупреждаю магов, что канабис заебис, а мак замочит, бычий кайф к тому же)
мак мычит потому что мак бык
бак
(у мака бак, и бык как бак)

бы ~ ма ?
был ~ mal?




(from bathroom papers)
а и о у я все однобуквенные слова которые всегда однобуквенны: в=во, с=со, к=ко, ж=же, б=бы
но тогда о исключи, она также и об
а и у я   как в слове Алилуйя.
Где-то я его сегодня видел:

and there he drops an idea of ᚫᛚᚢ (ᚨᛚᚢ?) being OM (ᚮ is O, so maybe ᚫ and ᚨ are O's, and other forms of this very like rune were ᚨᚩᚪᚫᚬᚭᚮᚯᚰ (ᚮ is amongst them, so yes, the same rune, just read as O in Anglo-Saxon while speculated to be read as a in others, but dannish aa[o] and [o] tell me they're all O))


[во́дэ] würde ~ would [ўу́д~ўо́д]
(neither r nor l is pronounced)


> а и у я   как в слове Алилуйя.
Аллилуйя only has l as consonant, and l could be le the l' the the.
A, les I, le ЯЯЯ
Аз, the I, the Я?

И̃ множественное число от А̃ которая Я̃
(от юса какого-то, как ни странно ныне ётированные Ю и Я были носовыми)
или носовая Ѧ отдельно, йотированная носовая Ѩ отдельно
Ѫ и Ѭ ешё были. Я понятия не имею разницы меж Ѫ и Ѧ.
в Ѫ верхний камень пирамиды свернули,
но разницу в фонетической стороне дела я не ведаю.
Время разведать.

Ѧ:
Первоначальное фонетическое значение буквы — носовой гласный [ɛ̃], реже (в древнейших памятниках) — йотированный [jɛ̃] (в этом случае для нейотированного звука в глаголице используется начертание с дополнительной вертикальной линией от самой левой точки буквы вниз, именуемой условно «носовой с хвостиком» (в англоязычной литературе почему-то называется «носовой ер»), а в кириллице — знак в виде А с дополнительной горизонтальной чертой, соединяющей ножки внизу; иногда встречается начертание в виде буквы А с v-образной перекладиной). В единичных случаях в древнейших глаголических текстах встречается использование малого юса то ли как знака носового произношения предыдущей гласной, то ли в роли буквы Н: аѧ҃ћлъ (ангел).
В древнерусском языке звуковое содержание малого юса изменилось, превратившись в [ʲa] после согласных и [ja] после гласных и в начале слова, то есть совпало со значением буквы «йотированное А».
В русском языке на его месте обычно употребляется Я (пѧть — «пять»);
носовое же произношение и особые буквы с диакритическим знаком огонэк сохраняются только в польском (pięć).

В церковнославянской азбуке малый юс могут называть просто «юс» (так как другие юсы не используются) или даже «я».
В литературе по филологии, палеографии и т. п. иногда для краткости вместо словосочетания «малый юс» используют условное написание «ѧс» (аналогичным образом вместо «большой юс» — «ѫс» и т. п.).


Ѫ:
Ѫ, ѫ (большой юс, болг. Голям юс, Голяма носовка) — буква исторической кириллицы. Обозначала звук [ɔ̃]

В церковнославянской азбуке большой юс могут называть просто «юс» (при этом малый юс называют «я»).
В литературе по филологии, палеографии и т. п. иногда для краткости вместо словосочетания «большой юс» используют условное написание «ѫс» (аналогичным образом вместо «малый юс» — «ѧс» и т. п.).


В некоторых хорватских источниках словом «юс» (jus) называют букву Ю, тогда как «настоящие» юсы именуются «эн» (малый), «ен» (малый йотированный), «он» (большой) и «ён» (большой йотированный) — en, jen, on, jon.


Не знаю верно ли усвоил, но понял что Ѫ превратилось в Ю
а Ѧ превратилось в Я
Ю большое, потому что you значит Вы, это слово часто капитализируется.
Я малое, потому что последняя буква и в русском не капитализируется.
и что раньше Ѧ было эн, Ѫ было он
потому Ю выглядит как ётированное О,
потому Я выглядит как e the je.

ɪ e я по возрастанию сложности написания одного и того же.

и вот прикол, который говорит, что не только Ѧ = Я, но и то что ꙗ = Е

wonderful, that ꙗ looks like га, га, са which all forms of the same.
is ɪ г?
Я looks like hI or sI, but does it mean anything? I doubt it here.
But the wildest similarity is that si is yes in italian, and я is yes in german.

In romanian și is and, as in russian съ (with)
In romanian yes is da, as in russian da.

I though they called their language romanian because it's of Rome.
Этрусски это русские. Евреи поставили Задорнова это высмеивать.
Но как сказал другой еврей, русские это немного белорусы, белорусы это немного уркаинцы, уркаинцы немного поляки, поляки немного чехи, чехи немного немцы, немцы немного голландцы, голландцы немного англичане. Румыны географически меж итальянцами и русскими, должно быть и лингвистически таковы.





Соображая насколько бизнес-ютуб интересней политик-ютуба, понимаю, что троица запретных тем это политика, религия и спорт. Потому что все три темы для глупых гоев.
Про деньги же говорить исключительно кошерно.



KTU 5.6 is how they call this vamous ugaritic abecedary

𐎀 𐎁 𐎂 𐎃 𐎄 𐎅 𐎆 𐎇 𐎈 𐎉 𐎊 𐎋
𐎌 𐎍 𐎎 𐎏 𐎐 𐎑 𐎒 𐎓 𐎔 𐎕 𐎖 𐎗
𐎘 𐎙 𐎚 𐎛 𐎜 𐎝 (this one almost totally correlates, 𐎙 seems to be able to cross 𐎚 from any way)


The following part is full of mistakes, but it is natural for a черновик (it's not even draft, it's a notebook in which you think and you allow yourself everything you want in it) but it is all preserved to show you the thought process. I was always annoyed that I am only presented with the results and not the explanation of how they found it out. So readers today are not even certain if what they read is true. Replication crisis is the thing as a result of this sad state) well.. this part demonstrates that it's quite worth it: as a result I find proof to 𐎅 being E.
𐎅 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 𐎖 𐎆 𐎌 𐎗 (it seems, the last one here repeats in the beginning of the next line)
𐎗 𐎚 𐎒 𐎋 𐎐 𐎃 𐎁 (this line is messy and I myself don't know what is going on in it)
𐎔 𐎀 𐎓 𐎑 𐎂 𐎄 𐎙 𐎉  (at this point I even wonder if that is halaham, like we had 𐎐)
𐎇 𐎏 𐎊 𐎘 𐎕     [ 𐎛 𐎜 𐎝 ] (but the ending in 𐎊 convinces me that.. maybe)

and I looked at it better, and I see that 𐎁 is at the right side of the second line, not the left side:
𐎅 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 𐎖 𐎆 𐎌 𐎗
𐎁 𐎚 𐎘    𐎒 𐎋 𐎐 𐎃
𐎔 𐎀 𐎓 𐎑 𐎂 𐎄 𐎙 𐎉  (at this point I even wonder if that is halaham, like we had 𐎐)
𐎇 𐎏 𐎊  𐎕     [ 𐎛 𐎜 𐎝 ] (but the ending in 𐎊 convinces me that.. maybe)

Попросил Gemini распознать. Их ответ:

Транслитерация (Южная последовательность — halaḥam):

    𐎄 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 (h, l, ḥ, m)
    𐎖 𐎗 𐎌 𐎗 (q, w, š, r) — примечание: в угаритском 'w' и 'r' визуально похожи
    𐎚 𐎒 𐎋 𐎐 (t, s, k, n)
    𐎑 𐎁 𐎰 𐎔 (ḫ, b, ś, p)
    𐎀 𐎂 𐎄 𐎙 (’a, g, d, ġ)
    𐎏 𐎕 𐎖 𐎊 (ṭ, z, f, y)
    𐎁 ṣ (u, ṣ — нижние фрагменты)

𐎅 подходит на роль первой буквы гораздо чётче, и я им сказал, и про 3.5 строки всего, и они согласились и исправились, ну, типа:
𐎅 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 (h — l — ḥ — m)
𐎖 𐎗 𐎌 𐎗 (q — w — š — r) (Здесь буквы w и r очень похожи — обе состоят из одного вертикального клина, но у r сверху обычно есть маленькая «шляпка» (что несёт, вообще охуеть))
𐎚 𐎒 𐎋 𐎐 (t — s — k — n)
𐎑 𐎁 (ḫ — b)
т.е. просто образал то, что принёс в первый раз, на уровне 3.5 строк.
короче, наркоман пока. У Грока тоже не спрашиваю, он тоже охуеет с такого задания.
но всё равно спросил, он охуел:
(h l ḥ m q w š r t s k n ḫ b p ʾ) 𐎅 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 𐎖 𐎆 𐎌 𐎗 𐎚 𐎒 𐎋 𐎐 𐎃 𐎁 𐎔 𐎀
(ʿ ẓ g d ġ ṭ z ḏ) 𐎓 𐎑 𐎂 𐎄 𐎙 𐎉 𐎇 𐎏
(y ṯ ṣ) 𐎊 𐎘 𐎕
I laugh in human supremacy and use his attempt as the basis:
(h l ḥ m q w š r) 𐎅 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 𐎖 𐎆 𐎌 𐎗
(b t ? ? k n ḫ ?) 𐎁 𐎚  ? ?  𐎋 𐎐 𐎃  ?
(p ? s ʿ ẓ g d ġ/ṯ ? ṭ z ḏ) 𐎔 ? 𐎒 𐎓 𐎑 𐎂 𐎄 𐎙/𐎘 (? 𐎐?) 𐎉 𐎇 𐎏
(ṣ ʾ y) 𐎕 𐎀 𐎊 
and I took some liberty with 𐎄
and 𐎙 too, but it is pretty much like in KTU 5.6
Probably the grey set is the ? set.
Maybe 𐎌 is one of the 𐎐s.

and I work on it some more:
(h l ḥ m q w r) 𐎅 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 𐎖 𐎆𐎗
(b t ḏ g k n ḫ z/ṯ) 𐎁 𐎚 𐎏 𐎂  𐎋 𐎐 𐎃  𐎇/𐎘
(p ẓ s ʿ d ġ š ṭ) 𐎔 𐎑 𐎒 𐎓  𐎄 𐎙 𐎌 𐎉 
(ṣ ʾ y) 𐎕 𐎀 𐎊
 𐎕 𐎀 𐎊  reads literally "say"

So, I laugh in human supremacy and show this my transliteration to Grok and Gemini.
Grok praises it yet stubbornly sticks to his previous variant. Baka.
Gemini praises me and comments:
Твой вариант: Очень точный подбор фонем.
Нюанс: Обрати внимание на 𐎃 (ḫ). В угаритском это «ха» с точкой, и на оригинальной табличке она часто идет в паре с 𐎁 (b), создавая тот самый костяк, который в эфиопском превратится в знакомые формы. Твой выбор между 𐎇 (z) и 𐎘 (ṯ) — это прямо в точку, так как в разных списках они могут прыгать.
I have no idea if that commentary is legit, I just leave it as a testimony of early AGI
Лингвистический кайф: Посмотри на 𐎒 (s) и 𐎌 (š). В угаритском «южном» порядке они стоят именно так, что потом даст огромную пищу для размышлений исследователям финикийского и иврита. Твое 𐎙 (ġ) — это тот самый «назальный» или глубокий гортанный звук, который мы обсуждали в начале
Финальный аккорд. 𐎀 (ʾa) здесь выступает как фундаментальный гласный звук.
(and I didn't share the « 𐎕 𐎀 𐎊  reads literally "say"» line. Glorious Gemini)
Probably, this is a better version:
(h l ḥ m q w r) 𐎅 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 𐎖 𐎆𐎗
(b t ḏ g k n ḫ ṯ) 𐎁 𐎚 𐎏 𐎂  𐎋 𐎐 𐎃  𐎘
(p ẓ s ʿ d ġ š ṭ) 𐎔 𐎑 𐎒 𐎓  𐎄 𐎙 𐎌 𐎉
(ṣ ʾ y) 𐎕 𐎀 𐎊
which lacks 𐎇/z/  and there also may be 𐎛 𐎜 𐎝 instead of some of those

and finally I found somebody else's attempt to do it, surely they should know it better than I do:

Well, this is rather wild, the ṭ doesn't look like 𐎉
and what made them read 𐎀 as z I can only guess, but nothing comes to mind.
they rotated 𐎌 to get that š which I can only wonder if they could do.
wild, wild, wild thing. It agrees with me on 𐎁 the b which is very fine.

And because 𐎅 is E, that order begins not from hlḥm, but of Eloḥim!
(which is strictly in step with A-B Б-Г G-D D-E(us))

And there are more:
KTU 5.4:

𐎀 𐎁 𐎂 𐎃 𐎄 𐎅 𐎆
 𐎇 𐎈 𐎉 𐎊 𐎋 𐎌
𐎍
𐎎 𐎏 𐎐 𐎑  (the way they placed 5 strokes instead of 3 in 𐎐 is fascinating)
𐎒 𐎓 𐎔 𐎕 𐎖 𐎗
𐎘 𐎙 𐎚 𐎛 𐎜 𐎝
(grey glyphs are not present, only part of dark grey glyphs are present)
Once again, 𐎙 seems to be not painted write into unicode, that horizontal stroke is pierced not from below, but from above. Probably what it takes to fix it is to rotate it 45° clockwise.
And by the way it ends, it seems 𐎝 was never there in it.

But then where I found that photograph they also transliterated it, let's compare our takes:

it pleases me how mighty I became. It's literally the same transliteration and I didn't see it before I made it. I wonder if that 𐎝 is on the reverse of it. The reverse side is nowhere to be seen.


KTU 5.14:


Нижняя треть лицевой стороны и, соответственно, верхняя треть обратной стороны утрачены, поэтому десять букв из середины угаритского алфавита отсутствуют; сохранились только первые десять и последние десять

Have you seen it! I told you 𐎅 the ה is vowel! If it was transliterated into Sumerian as some ha, I would have to reconsider my stand, but it is transliterated by a vowel. and мел is much easier recognized in мюл than in махал (but then I guess it also tells that 𒌑is also more e than ú, and there is something to support this claim, only that something is somewhat messy:

so I clicked that Sing No. u-2 which was the most similar, and I got this mess:

Do not be confused by the complex construction in the right top corner, that is probably from some earlier period, in which all of them were way more complicated. So in that image the "third line from bottom, last cuneiform character" looks pretty much like 𒌑. And now look at the very top righ corner of that screenshot and you can see the "1 language" link, which leads to this:

and that "a, ko e, ko i" is of the "Linguistically, it has the alphabetical usage in texts for u, but can replace any of the four vowels, so also used for a, or e, or i." which supports my claim that it was E.


Зацени, ДНК: Ԫ



And all of the sudden, rhombic dodecahedra:





This thing is famous for it is considered to be having the most ancient Synaic writing (here it is below egyptian hieroglyphic) but it is so bright white that naturally I suspect it to be scribbled recently. The egyptian writing interests me way more. Owl in cartouche and what follows could easily be alphabetic. The vowel 𓇌 followed by labial 𓌸[mr] but then I look at the direction of they hieroglyphs and I see that those are not how it starts, but how it ends. and that 𓌸 is 𓌻 (there are more: 𓌸𓌹𓌺𓌻𓌼)








Now, let's use the same source to determine if 𐎛ỉ 𐎜 ủ can be u & v instead (russian i the и looks like u, but let's use Sumero-Akkadian:

But it corrected the reading of 𐎝: it may say that it's z and not s̀ nor ʃ
(or the other way around correction is possible)
𐎜 is transliterated by 𒌋
I naturally wonder how they transliterated 𐎓

And that's where the intrigue begins: it shows that part of Sumero-Akkadian character still can be seen.
But no such luck, that is the p ~ pu can be seen, 𒌋 is exactly where the completely missing part begins.
And I would suspect that it is the part a forgerer wouldn't know how to deal with, so he could break it as if to conceal the troublesome part. But then he would never figure out to transliterate 𐎅 as 𒌑, so my verdict is legit. KTU 5.14 is legit. Not because it confirms my theory, but because a forgerer wouldn't know my theory when he could forge it and why else would he derive from the line of the party.
So, if my theory is proven true, it is a great tool to find forgeries in the previous corpus.
Candid AI should be doing that.


But I already brought the Sumerian syllabic glyphs, and its pu doesn't look like that piece at all.




 and it seems they messed a lot:
compare the rightmost in the
2nd and the 3rd lines, 𒉈
(Sumerograms     BAR₇, BIL, BIR₉, BI₂, DE₃, GIBIL₄, IZI, KUM₂, LI₉, NE, ŠEG₆
Phonetic values     bil/pil, bi₂, ne )
(so though indeed it is also de, it is not in its phonetic values, bi is) and thus it is probably not their real table, that's some assyrologist have compiled it. And if 𒉈 was from time to time used for de, what do I know. I only raise the question.
Here's Grok's take:
This is a highly polyvalent sign (common in cuneiform), meaning it has multiple logographic (word) readings and several phonetic (syllabic) values, depending on context, period, and language (primarily Sumerian, but also Akkadian and others).
The most common and standard phonetic readings include:ne (the core value, used very frequently as a syllable /ne/)
bi₂ (often written bi₂ or bí to distinguish it from the more common BI sign 𒁉; represents /bi/ in many contexts)
de₃ (or dé/dè; represents /de/ or emphatic variants in some periods)
Others less frequently attested but documented: bil/pil (or pí/pe₅ in some syllabaries), ni₅, kum₂, li₉, etc.




and all these glyph do not seem to contain such a character (if the artist saw it well. but the photograph is even less lucid)
But this table made me see that ugaritic glyphs are of these:

a 𐎀   ~   𒐀 [DIDLI, MIN₅] CUNEIFORM NUMERIC SIGN TWO ASH
b 𐎁   ~   𒁇𒁇 is the best I could come up with
c 𐎂   ~   𒁹 [diš/ṭiš] (one, triangle, wedge of a cuneiform sign) and also 𒐕[g̃eš₂/g̃ešd] (60) a great Г, btw.
ḫ 𐎃   ~   𒑉 [ILIMMU] CUNEIFORM NUMERIC SIGN NINE variant form of 𒑆 (?))
Etymology: An additive compound of 𒐊 (i₂ /⁠i⁠/, “five”) +‎ 𒐉 (limmu₅ /⁠limmu⁠/, “four”).
d 𐎄   ~   𒁇𒁇𒁇 is the best I could come up with
e 𐎅   ~   𒐺 [eš] CUNEIFORM NUMERIC SIGN THREE alternative form of 𒐈
w 𐎆      𒈥 was the closest I could find, but it is a totally different glyph
z 𐎇   ~   𒑖 (CUNEIFORM NUMERIC SIGN NIGIDAMIN)  Sumerograms     4, LIMMU₆, NIGIDAMIN
ḥ 𐎈
θ 𐎉     𒍙 contains a similar element, but it's not clear what it itself even is.
i 𐎊   ~   𒑉𒑉 is the best I could come with.
k 𐎋
š 𐎌
l 𐎍
m 𐎎  ~   𒈨 [me] (to be, our) and also [išib] (purification priest, magician, spell, to be pure, )
In Sumerian mythology, a me (𒈨; Sumerian: me) is one of the decrees of the divine that is foundational to Sumerian religious and social institutions, technologies, behaviors, mores, and human conditions that made Mesopotamian civilization possible. They are fundamental to the Sumerian understanding of the relationship between humanity and the gods.
    The Sumerian theologians, again no doubt taking their cue from the human world about them, adduced a significant metaphysical inference in answer to the problem as to what keeps the cosmic entities and phenomena, once created, operating continuously and harmoniously, without conflict and confusion; this is the concept designated by the Sumerian word me, whose exact rendering is still uncertain. In general it would seem to denote a set of rules and regulations assigned to each cosmic entity and phenomenon for the very purpose of keeping it operating forever in accordance with the plans laid down by the deities creating it.
        Kramer, Samuel Noah. “Sumerian Religion”, In: Forgotten Religions (Including Some Living Primitive Religions), ed. V. Ferm. The Philosophical Library, New York. 1950: 47-62. page 56
        Quoted from Levitt, S. H. (2012). Vedic-ancient Mesopotamian interconnections and the dating of the Indian tradition. Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, 93, 137-192.
ḏ 𐎏
n
𐎐   ~   𒐁 [eš] CUNEIFORM NUMERIC SIGN THREE ASH alternative form of 𒐈
ẓ 𐎑
s 𐎒
o 𐎓   ~   𒌋 u
p 𐎔   ~   𒉺[pa]     branch, stick;    wing, feathers;    top
ṣ 𐎕
q 𐎖   ~   𒁁 [BAD, IDIM, MUD₂, SUMUN, SUN, TIL, UG₇, UŠ₂, ŠUMUN ]
the table above transliterated it as uš, which is super cool in the sense of it being
Alternative forms: 𒅂 𒌀 𒍗 (the difference between 𒍗 and 𒁁 is that one uses 𒌋, other combines 𒀹 and reverse𒑠 𒍻
for it)
A very similar glyph 𒑘 is numeral, and it is some weird form of 1
r 𐎗
ṯ 𐎘   ~   𒋙 [šu]    totality, world;
[šuš] to cover, spread over, apply;    to overwhelm, envelope, cast down;    to become obscure, dark;    to set (said of the sun)
ġ 𐎙
t 𐎚  ~   𒀸 [aš] (which makes me wonder if 𐎚[t] is transliterated correctly. And if s~t, as ת[θ]
𒀸 [aš] correlates 𒍗 [uš] in the world of 𒌋[u]
And it can be proven or disproven by more or lack thereof
i 𐎛
ủ 𐎜    basicalllly I got bored and dropped this work, should be continued later.
s̀ 𐎝     if anything, it is a way to learn both sets of glyphs.


Some more sumerian things:
a 𒀀   ~   𒑗 (NIEŠ)    Sumerogram of šalāšat pānū (“three panu” (three faces))


m 𐎎  ~   𒈨 [me]  and also 𒈦[maš, sa]
and now I wonder if that is where Ϻ~M mess (short for messunderstanding is coming from)

Symilar glyphs:

𒇲 [la₂, la] Г~L
    to hang, balance, suspend (ГлаГоли как виселицы!)
    to weigh, weigh out, pay
    to show, display
    to stretch out
                        𒇳 [lalla] loss (pay-pay?)

𒁇 [bar]
    outside, other side, outer side;   exterior, outer appearance;     back, shoulder, edge;    body, skin;    fleece;    outsider, stranger, other
    to lie outside, be outside;    to go away, send out, set aside, release;    to cut open, slit;    to delimit, allot (fields);    to bend, double



candour can do
candor can do



JK could be tabooed because those letters are JewsKikes (which is marvelous in the context of Jesu Kristo. Jews Killed. Just Killed. Come on, man, that's poetry, not science. Funny poetry though. duh



I always felt greek Η is more of Е than И. Maybe because

but Эллада is Ελλάδα is Греция [эла́за (на самом деле эла́ðа)]
Греческий is ελληνικά
Греческий язык is ελληνικά [элимика́]
Ελληνική Γλώσσα is Греческий язык.


μιλάς ελληνικά [мила́с элимика́]


I was certain that just yesterday all those words had Η in front of them,
but now I think is it ..what is it? Greeks translate Homer into Όμηρος [о́мирос] (όμηρος is hostage)


С одной стороны сейчас машинным образом можно проставить ударения, чего бы это всегда не делать, но с другой стороны что если кто-то у себя в книжке неправильно их проставит и они закрепятся у читателя в голове. Тогда это будет вариантом, с одним из корней в той книжке.


Like how would all greeks start to read something differently? Priests added strings to Apollo's lyre. And because Apollo's Lyre is alphabet, Apollo is APL, Apple!!! Читать мы научились, это господа непорадовало? Библию читать простолюдинам запрещали. Вроде как, так я слышал, из какого-то кажущегося авторитетным источника. Не помню даже откуда.


Decree_approving_Kallikrates_designs_for_the_Parthenon_(ca._448_BC)
And here Η surrounded by vowels naturally would be read as a consonant, would it not?
around the right middle of the fourth line of the top..

No, there isn't any historical or mythological record of priests of Apollo specifically adding strings to his lyre (or the kithara, the professional concert version often depicted with Apollo). The number of strings on Apollo's symbolic instrument evolved over time through a mix of myth, innovation by musicians, and changing musical practices in ancient Greece—but priests aren't credited with those changes in any ancient sources.The mythological baselineIn the core myths (like the Homeric Hymn to Hermes, ~7th–6th century BCE), Hermes invents the lyre using a tortoise shell and seven gut strings (from sheep or cows). He gifts it to Apollo to appease him after stealing cattle. Apollo immediately masters it and becomes its divine patron. So from the earliest surviving stories, Apollo's lyre is already seven-stringed—symbolizing completeness, the seven planets, the Pleiades (daughters of Atlas), or cosmic harmony. This seven-string form became the "classical" standard associated with Apollo.

> ”Гласные, которые
добавили жрецы Аполлона, чтобы
установить соответствие между гласными
и струнами божественной лиры, — это,
вероятно, те, которые упоминает
Деметрий — александрийский философ
I в. до н.э. — в своем труде «О стиле»:
«А, например, у египтян в гимне,
который поют жрецы, прославляя богов,
следуют друг за другом семь гласных
звуков. И звучание этих гласных в
результате создаваемого ими благозвучия
воспринимается как звучание флейты или
кифары...

The passage you quoted is a genuine excerpt from the ancient Greek rhetorical treatise Περὶ ἑρμηνείας (Peri hermēneias, "On Style" or "On Elocution"), traditionally attributed to Demetrius (likely not Demetrius of Phalerum himself, but a later author from the 1st century BCE or early Roman period, often dated to around the 1st century BCE–1st century CE). The specific section (§71 in modern editions) describes Egyptian priests chanting seven vowels in sequence during hymns to the gods, producing such harmonious sound that it replaces the need for flute (aulos) or lyre (kithara/cithara). In the original Greek (from reliable editions like the Loeb or Rhys Roberts translation): «ἐν Αἰγύπτῳ γοῦν οἱ ἱερεῖς ἐν τοῖς ὕμνοις τοὺς θεοὺς ὑμνοῦντες ἑπτὰ φωνήεντα ἐφεξῆς φθέγγονται, ὧν ἡ ἠχὴ διὰ τὴν εὐφωνίαν ἀντὶ αὐλοῦ καὶ κιθάρας ἀκούεται...»This is not about Greek priests of Apollo adding vowels (or strings) to anything. Demetrius is giving an example of euphony (beautiful sound in language/composition) from Egyptian ritual practice, where the seven Greek vowels (α, ε, η, ι, ο, υ, ω) were intoned consecutively as a form of sacred vocal music or incantation. This produced a melodic, flute- or lyre-like effect purely through voice.
The connection to Apollo's lyre and the "added vowels":
There is no ancient source stating that priests of Apollo (Delphic or otherwise) "added" vowels to establish a correspondence with the strings of the divine lyre. The seven strings of Apollo's lyre (standardized in myth and practice from the 7th century BCE onward, credited to Terpander) predate this rhetorical reference by centuries, and they are tied to cosmic symbolism (seven planets, Pleiades, harmony of the spheres), not directly to vowels being "added" by priests.However, in later Hellenistic, Pythagorean, and especially Greco-Egyptian syncretic traditions (like the magical papyri from Roman Egypt, Gnostic texts, and Neoplatonic/Orphic ideas), a symbolic link does emerge: The seven Greek vowels came to represent the seven planetary spheres/heavens (often Moon = A, Mercury = E, Venus = H/Ē, Sun = I, Mars = O, Jupiter = Y, Saturn = Ω—or slight variations).
Each vowel corresponded to a musical note/tone in the scale.
This tied into the "music of the spheres" idea, where planets produce harmonious sounds (inaudible to mortals).
Apollo, as god of music, harmony, the Sun, and prophecy, had his seven-stringed lyre reinterpreted as symbolizing this cosmic heptachord (seven-note system).
In some esoteric/magical contexts (e.g., vowel incantations in spells invoking Helios-Apollo-Horus), intoning the seven vowels mimicked playing the lyre or accessing planetary powers.

This vowel-planet-string equivalence appears in sources like:Magical papyri (PGM) with vowel chants.
Later writers (e.g., references in Plutarch on the Delphic "EI", or in discussions of planetary music).
Esoteric compilations (e.g., 19th–20th century occult works drawing on these, like those mentioning vowel-planet mappings).

But crucially: this is a later syncretic/mystical interpretation (Hellenistic–Roman era onward), blending Greek music theory, Egyptian ritual vocalization (as noted by Demetrius), and Pythagorean cosmology. It's not an original feature of Archaic/Classical Greek Apollo worship, where priests focused on paeans (hymns), sacrifices, and oracles—not on "adding" vowels to match strings.SummaryDemetrius is describing Egyptian priests' use of the seven vowels for euphonic/hymnic effect (~1st century BCE reference to older practice).
No evidence exists for Apollo's priests "adding" vowels (or strings) in any historical/mythological account.
The idea of vowels corresponding to the seven strings/planets/notes is a beautiful esoteric motif that developed later in the syncretic world of Alexandria and the Greco-Roman East—fascinating for mysticism, but not part of core Delphic/Apollonian tradition.

If this comes from a specific modern book, esoteric text, or reconstruction (e.g., something linking vowels directly to Apollo's priests "adding" them), it might be a creative synthesis rather than direct ancient testimony. Drop more context if you have it, and I can dig deeper!


The next two lines quote the previous quotation from what Grok thinks about it.

paeans (hymns) ..oh wow, russian пение is a cognate.

Saturn = Ω  (isn't it what MM was all about (Zeus is Jupiter, yet jews worship Saturn
and in extent, Mars and his avatar Marx))
O the cOins? empty as O in the word G-d

Мы Все Знаем Мама Юли Села Утром На Пилюли
какое пошлое и бестолковое мнемоническе что-то
Во-первых, приходится запоминать что Меркурий ближе к Солнцу чем Венера, и что Уран после сатурна. Во-вторых, ого, я Сатурна с маленькой написал. неуважительно. 
Во-вторых просто пошлая пропаганда наркомании. Биг фарма, не иначе.

Меркурий Венера Земля Марс Юпитер (вот здесь путаемся, сатурн под ноги лезет. после марса Церера ещё была когда-то (цербер? там она не одна, остальные головы остальные планеты "пояса астероидов")) Сатурн Уран Нептун Плутон (с этими помогает только если помнишь, что У ближе к концу.. погоди. SU could be how the alphabet ended. Нептун и Плутон не знали раньше.


Я хочу жить вечно, бесконечно, не беспечно, а обеспеченно.


Did they know Mercury? Wasn't it another spot on a Sun? They probably saw Venus on the Sun
And they naturally wood: the smaller regular dots spots пятна на солнце видны сквозь обычный телескоп, если его сфокусировать на солнце и направить на стену. Направить на солнце и сфокусировать на стене или листе бумаги мы делали.


And what are the spots? They were explained to me as some electromagnetic activity, but looking at the infrared image, I suspect thoe dots to be shining in some other frequency, something invisible to humans in the visible light. I know those images are made at different moments, but my other explanation is shadows of the spaceships. I need to explore the spots. I should buy me a telescope just for that. If they appear and disappear within the surface of the disk, they are the sun's phenomena, if they move with the sun they're the sun's phenomena, of objects parked to the sun, to be charging from it, etc. If they move across the surface, focus on the fringes, if their presence still can be seen outside of the disk. Some video in internet showed a starship-like structure flying off the sun, but that was only a video on the internet.

And as for Mercury, indeed we humans didn't know of him until recently, probably we have mistaken one to a persistent dark spot. Sunspot:

Следует купить телескоп с целью изучить не прячутся ли более мелкие небесные объекты среди пятен на солнце. Может эти "медузы" это малые туманности. Почему бы нет! Какой-нибудь сердечник радиоактивный гравитационно взвесь вокруг себя держит. Раз у меркурия получилось на орбите держаться, то.. блин, всё в космосе каждое на своей орбите. Солнце чтоб не поглотило ещё эту всю кострукцию с радиоактивным сердечником вылетевшим при взрыве какого-нибудь небесного тела.

И я говорил они не знали о Меркурии:

The first observation of a Mercury transit was observed on November 7, 1631 by Pierre Gassendi. He was surprised by the small size of the planet compared to the Sun. Johannes Kepler had predicted the occurrence of transits of Mercury and Venus in his ephemerides published in 1630.[30]


and it is a brainfart of eating too much wiki. That it's all there is in the history department on it, doesn't mean that is all there is.

"Mercury = E"

And Grok teaches me how it is:

Humans have known about the planet Mercury since prehistoric or very ancient times, as it is one of the five classical planets visible to the naked eye (along with Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn). There is no single "discovery date" or individual discoverer because it has been observed for millennia—likely as far back as early human civilizations capable of noting bright "wandering stars" in the sky.Earliest recorded observationsThe oldest known records date to around 3000 BC (or the early 3rd millennium BC) from the Sumerians in ancient Mesopotamia. They referred to it in their astronomical texts.
By the time of the Babylonians (who inherited and expanded Sumerian knowledge), it was documented in detail, often called Nabu (after their god of writing and wisdom, analogous to the later Roman Mercury as a messenger). Babylonian star catalogs and MUL.APIN tablets from around 1400–1000 BC mention it as "the jumping planet" due to its quick, elusive motion near the Sun.
Other ancient cultures, including the Egyptians, Greeks (who called it Hermes or Stilbon, meaning "twinkling," and realized by ~350 BC that the morning and evening appearances were the same object), Chinese, and Hindus, also observed and named it independently, associating it with swift messenger gods or elements.

Mercury is harder to spot than brighter planets like Venus or Jupiter because it never strays far from the Sun (max ~28° elongation), so it's only visible briefly at dawn or dusk, often low on the horizon and washed out by twilight. This made it "discovered" later than some others in some cultures, but still in deep antiquity.Later milestones (not the initial discovery)Telescopic observations began in the early 17th century: Galileo Galilei and Thomas Harriot viewed it around 1609–1610 with early telescopes, though Galileo's instrument wasn't strong enough to clearly show its phases.
The first observed transit (Mercury crossing the Sun's disk) was in 1631, predicted by Johannes Kepler and seen by Pierre Gassendi.
Spacecraft exploration started much later: Mariner 10's flybys in 1974–1975, MESSENGER orbit in 2011, etc.

In short: Mercury wasn't "discovered" in the modern sense (like Uranus in 1781 via telescope)—it was simply recognized as a planet by ancient sky-watchers thousands of years ago, with the earliest firm records from ~3000 BC in Sumerian/Babylonian astronomy.

"Mercury = E"
but I insist
> When did Europeans learn about it? Did Romans know about it?

Europeans learned about the planet Mercury in antiquity, as part of the shared knowledge of the classical Mediterranean world. "Europeans" here primarily means the ancient Greeks (whose astronomy influenced much of later European thought) and then the Romans, who adopted and built on Greek observations. There was no single "discovery moment" for Europeans—unlike with Uranus or Neptune centuries later—because Mercury is one of the five naked-eye classical planets visible worldwide since prehistoric times.Earliest European (Greek) knowledgeAncient Greeks were aware of Mercury as a "wandering star" (planet) from at least the Archaic period (~8th–6th centuries BCE), though early records are sparse.
Initially, they treated its morning and evening appearances as separate objects:Apollo (or sometimes Phosphoros) when seen as a morning "star" low in the east before sunrise.
Hermes (or Stilbon, meaning "twinkling" or "gleaming") when seen as an evening "star" after sunset.

By around 350 BCE (mid-4th century BCE), Greek astronomers realized these were the same planet. This unification is often credited to the broader Hellenistic astronomical tradition (possibly influenced by earlier Babylonian knowledge via contacts in the Near East). From then on, it was consistently called Hermes in Greek, due to its swift, elusive motion across the sky—mirroring the messenger god Hermes.
Greek philosophers and astronomers like Pythagoras (c. 570–495 BCE), Plato, and later Ptolemy (2nd century CE) included it in their models of the cosmos as one of the five visible planets.

Did the Romans know about it?Yes, definitely—and extensively. The Romans inherited Greek astronomy almost wholesale during the Republic (especially after conquering Greek territories in the 3rd–2nd centuries BCE) and fully in the Empire.They named the planet Mercurius (Mercury) after their god Mercury, the swift messenger of the gods, equivalent to Greek Hermes. This name stuck because of the planet's rapid orbital period (88 Earth days) and quick apparent motion—faster than any other visible planet.
Roman writers and astronomers referenced it routinely:Pliny the Elder (1st century CE) in his Natural History discusses the planets, including Mercury (sometimes associating it with Apollo in certain contexts).
Cicero, Virgil, and other authors mention it in poetic or philosophical works.
Roman calendars, astrology, and public observations treated it as one of the seven "wanderers" (Sun, Moon + five planets).

Temples, statues, and frescoes of Mercury (the god) were common across the Empire, and the planet's name reflected cultural syncretism with Greek traditions.

In essence: Knowledge reached "Europe" (starting with the Greeks) by at least the 6th–5th centuries BCE, solidified by ~350 BCE, and was fully integrated into Roman culture by the 3rd–1st centuries BCE onward. The Romans didn't "rediscover" it—they simply renamed and adopted what the Greeks had already observed and named.

I insisted because M before B, which I saw there instead of V with my russian mind.
and I've got the resolution:

In antiquity, the planet Mercury was known by several names depending on the culture and period, reflecting both its rapid, elusive motion across the sky (appearing briefly near the Sun as a "morning star" or "evening star") and associations with swift messenger or wisdom deities.
Greco-Roman world (the direct ancestors of the modern name)
Ancient Greeks (from at least the Archaic period, ~8th–4th centuries BCE):
Initially treated its morning and evening appearances as two separate objects:
Apollo (or sometimes Phosphoros-like names) when seen in the morning (before sunrise).
Hermes (Ἑρμῆς / Hermēs) when seen in the evening (after sunset), due to its swift, fleeting movement mirroring the messenger god Hermes.

A descriptive epithet was Stilbon (Στίλβων / Stilbōn), meaning "the twinkling" or "gleaming one."
By
around 350 BCE (mid-4th century BCE), Greek astronomers unified the two sightings as one planet and settled on Hermes as the primary name. This is retained in modern Greek as Ermis (Ερμής).

Romans (from the Republic onward, especially after adopting Greek astronomy in the 3rd–1st centuries BCE):
Called it Mercurius (Mercury), the Roman equivalent of Greek Hermes—the swift-footed messenger god of commerce, travel, communication, and thievery.
The name reflected its fastest orbital period (88 Earth days) and quick apparent motion among the visible planets.
Some Roman sources (e.g., Pliny the Elder in the 1st century CE) still noted occasional associations with Apollo, but Mercurius became standard and passed into Latin/Western tradition.

Earlier Mesopotamian civilizations (influencing later Greco-Roman astronomy)
Sumerians (3rd millennium BCE onward): Associated it with
Enki (god of wisdom, water, and creation) or sometimes Gud (linked to fertility and harvest).
Babylonians/Akkadians (from ~2000 BCE, with detailed records in MUL.APIN tablets ~1000 BCE): Primarily called it Nabû (or Nebo/Nabu), after the god of writing, wisdom, scribes, and prophecy (messenger-like role). Other names included Šiḫṭu ("jump" or "attack," describing its yo-yo-like path near the Sun) or GU₄.UD (a positional/astronomical term).

Other ancient culturesAncient Egyptians: Often linked to Horus variants (e.g., "Horus who bounds the two lands" for some planets), but Mercury was sometimes the "morning star" or tied to Sabgu in later syncretic texts—less standardized than Mesopotamian/Greek systems.
Ancient Chinese: Known as Shuǐxīng (水星), meaning "water star" (associated with the element water and north direction), not a god name.

In summary, in the Western classical antiquity that most directly shapes modern usage, it was Hermes to the Greeks (after ~350 BCE) and Mercurius/Mercury to the Romans—names chosen for its speed and messenger-god symbolism. Earlier Mesopotamian names like Nabû fed into this tradition via cultural exchanges in the Hellenistic period.

and some more:

Yes, ancient observers (including early Greeks) understood Mercury as a "wandering star" (planet) long before 350 BCE, but they initially treated its two appearances—as a morning object and as an evening object—as two separate entities, not one single planet.Key timeline for Greek understandingFrom at least the Archaic period (~8th–6th centuries BCE), Greeks observed Mercury and recognized it as one of the five visible "planets" (wanderers) that moved against the fixed stars. They gave it names tied to gods and its behavior (e.g., Stilbon = "twinkling" or "gleaming").
However, because Mercury is faint and never strays far from the Sun (max ~28° away), it only appears briefly in twilight—either low in the east before dawn (morning appearance, often called Apollo) or low in the west after sunset (evening appearance, called Hermes). These sightings are separated by weeks or months, with no continuous visibility to connect them easily. So early on, many treated them as distinct "stars" or objects.
The realization that the morning and evening appearances were the same single planet came around 350 BCE (or roughly the mid-4th century BCE). Sources like Wikipedia's Mercury entry, astronomy histories, and textbooks (e.g., problems in astronomy texts) consistently cite this approximate date for when Greeks unified the two names under Hermes (later Roman Mercury).

Why the delay compared to Venus?
For contrast: The brighter, more obvious
Venus (Phosphoros as morning star, Hesperus as evening star) was recognized as one body earlier—often credited to Pythagoras around the 6th century BCE (c. 550–500 BCE) or even Parmenides. Mercury's dimness, shorter visibility windows, and greater proximity to the Sun made the connection harder to spot with naked-eye observations alone. It required more systematic tracking of its positions over time.Pre-350 BCE evidence of planetary statusBabylonian astronomy (which influenced Greeks) tracked Mercury as Nabû from at least the 2nd millennium BCE (and detailed in MUL.APIN tablets ~1000 BCE), treating it as a single wandering body despite its tricky appearances.
Early Greek references (e.g., to Timocharis in the early 3rd century BCE, but building on earlier work) show they already included it among the planets, even if dual-named.
By the time of Plato (early 4th century BCE) and Aristotle (mid-4th century BCE), the five planets were standard in cosmological models—Mercury included as a wanderer.

In short: Yes, it was understood as a planet (a moving "star") well before 350 BCE, but the key unification of its dual identities into one object happened around that time in Greek astronomy. This made the single name Hermes dominant thereafter.


If they chose Apollo as the primary name, ..wait, Apollo is its name, its forgotten name, it's hidden name

Babylonian astronomy (which influenced Greeks) tracked Mercury as Nabû from at least the 2nd millennium BCE (and detailed in MUL.APIN tablets ~1000 BCE), treating it as a single wandering body despite its tricky appearances.

and that Nabu is a god of writing, as Hermes is. So, is Apollo ABC, while Hermes is Hlhm? lh~R?
ᛚᚳ ~ ᚱ
ᚱ ~ ᛚᛚ?
ᛚ as high ᚳ?
ᚳ as low ᛚ?
but why high is of h
(the letter h is high though)
why low is of l?
(maybe because it's L?)

and in the light of suggestion that since 𐎅 = E, hlhm = Elohim
and is that Hermes ..Ερμής
and since ής is just a suffix, Ερμ could be the origin of the eastern order,
in which lingual consonants predate labial consonants
(I avoid a more simple word "letters" because some fuckers are butthurt of that)
(but then maybe it was a moment of weakness, fuck those fuckers for life)

and Apollo would symbolize the western order: APL ~ ABC,
labials before linguals.
Allah thus represents the east, but arabic language uses european kind of alphabet.
They stole it from europeans? From Persians for example?
But Persians had eastern alphabet:

𐎠a   𐎡i   𐎢 u
𐎣k  𐎤ku   𐎥g   𐎦gu    𐎧x   𐎨c   𐎩j   𐎪ji
𐎫t    𐎬tu   𐎭d    𐎮di   𐎯du   𐎰θ
𐎱p    𐎲b   𐎳f  
𐎴n   𐎵nu  𐎶m  𐎷mi  𐎸mu
𐎹y  𐎺v  𐎻vi  𐎼r  𐎽ru  𐎾l  𐎿s  𐏀z  𐏁š  𐏂ç  𐏃h

it may seem chaotic, but since n~m (ελληνικά [элимика́])
it is rather structured. My guess is y appeared later, or v appeared later, ç&h definitely appeared later or were deposed from the upper echelon. Wait..

𐎠a   𐎡i   𐎢 u
𐎣k  𐎤ku   𐎥g   𐎦gu    𐎧x   𐎨c  𐏂ç  𐏃h
𐎩j   𐎪ji    𐎫t    𐎬tu   𐎭d    𐎮di   𐎯du   𐎰θ
𐎱p    𐎲b   𐎳f
  𐎶m  𐎷mi  𐎸mu𐎺v  𐎻vi

could it bwe like this in some ancient past?
I mean it could, but what is it? Some fantasy history.

If I leave it like this, it may confuse somebody. Then that person shouyld have laernt to read books, not just pick random images from the internet. I know I failed to that bugger few times.

Japanese (another eastern syllabary) has S between K & T, and because K & T is the common section, S appeared later. As a different reading of C the С.

And after T in japanese kana have N, which could be the representative of labials, because group of labials is what follows in japanese; or all labials were N, since they call language язык & lingua as if tongue is all there is. Tongue as the synonym of language. Could originate from a translator's slop, but could go deeper than that. So was there different shapes of K and N was Ŋ and מ
but then wouldn't it be..
stop it, no need to torture a writing system of a language I do not speak.

A K T M is the strucutre of the eastern alphabets thug
A M K T the A B C D is the western alphabet structure

Я всё пытаюсь уложить планеты в алфавит, но даже на греко-русском A В З разрушается Марсом и Ю С У не спасают положение. С У тем не менее очень алфавитное завершение. ИИ должны прошерстить языки и зная все языки они запросто найдут всё с подозрением на алфавитность и сопоставив всю картину поймут вероятности каждого нахождения.

Это (попытка натянуть алфавит на планеты) пример неудавшегося исследования. но даже в ходе него я многое узнал. Я оставляю это здесь чтоб показать что "иногда побеждаешь, иногда учишься", как пример, как демонстрация того как открытия происходят, чтоб теоретические учёные будущего могли этот феномен моего исследования изучить.

Аполлон и Гермес как ближайшие к богу. Если он правда Гермес, то может А Г В как восточный (и анатомически последовательный) порядок (и может Б это видоизменённая Г (обе плозивны (взрывные согласные))) Земля Terra в центре этого всего.

Moon = A, Mercury = E, Venus = H/Ē, Sun = I, Mars = O, Jupiter = Y, Saturn = Ω
is it even legit?

well, here, I found something saying the same thing:

but though the following image keeps the order of the "luminosities", it inverts the musical scale

and the next one, I think from the same author, doesn't inverts the order, but shifts it by one note in relation to that table


and peering into these spheres, I also found these:
A (alpha, a) = 1st heaven;
E (epsilon, short e) = 2nd heaven;
H (eta, long e) = 3rd heaven;
I (iota, i) = 4th heaven;
O (omicron, short o) = 5th heaven;
Y (upsilon, u) = 6th heaven;
Ω (omega, long o) = 7th heaven.

The number 7 was and still is considered a powerful, beneficial number. When ancient astronomers observed the planets discernible to the naked eye, they discovered that they were seven in number, and many ancient religions were based on the veneration of this number. In Jewish religion, they were the archangels Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Samael, Uriel, Amiel, Zadkiel. To the Babylonians, the seven planets were the seven gods—Shamash, the Sun; Sin, the Moon; Nebo, Mercury; Ishtar, Venus; Nergal, Mars; Marduk, Jupiter; and Ea, Saturn. [10]

that was from wiki, I suppose, and my further conversation with Grok follows:

Phosphoros (Φωσφόρος, meaning "light-bringer" or "dawn-bringer") was the primary name for Venus when it appeared as the bright morning star (before sunrise).  Its evening counterpart was Hesperos (Ἕσπερος, "evening one") or sometimes Eosphoros (dawn-bringer variant). 
This dual naming for Venus was resolved earlier (around the 6th century BCE, often credited to Pythagoras or Parmenides), so by classical times, it was firmly one planet: the "star of Aphrodite."

> And we do not know what they though of them before 6th centurey BCE?
Before they realized that those were the same planet. Yes, they observed 5 planets, but did they consider them 5 or 7 before they knew that Phosphoros and Eosphoros are the same planet?

No, we don't have detailed written records from the Greeks themselves before the 6th century BCE that explicitly describe how they conceptualized or counted the "wandering" celestial objects (what we call planets). Greek literature and philosophy only really begin to discuss astronomy in a more systematic way starting with figures like Thales of Miletus (c. 624–546 BCE) and then Pythagoras (c. 570–495 BCE) in the 6th century BCE.Before that—in the Homeric (c. 8th century BCE) and Hesiodic (c. 700 BCE) periods—the surviving texts (Iliad, Odyssey, Works and Days, Theogony) mention bright stars, constellations (like Orion, Pleiades, Hyades, Great Bear/Ursa Major, Sirius), and seasonal risings/ settings of fixed stars for practical purposes (farming, sailing, navigation). They do not explicitly mention or name the five visible planets (Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn) as distinct "wanderers," nor do they discuss their motions in detail.Homer and Hesiod focus on fixed stars and their patterns as calendrical markers.
There are no clear references to planets moving against the background stars or to dual names like Phosphoros/Hesperos for Venus (or Apollo/Hermes for Mercury).
Venus is sometimes poetically linked to dawn or evening in later interpretations, but not treated as a separate "wandering" entity in these early poems.

This doesn't mean pre-6th century BCE Greeks were unaware of the brighter planets—Venus is so dazzling it's impossible to miss, and Jupiter and Mars are also prominent. They likely noticed their changing positions over weeks/months (unlike fixed stars), but this knowledge was probably oral, practical, or embedded in myth/religion rather than recorded as "astronomy." The concept of "planets" as a category of wanderers (πλανῆται / planētai) emerges later, in the 6th–5th centuries BCE.Before the realization that Phosphoros and Hesperos (or Eosphoros) were the same (Venus)The unification of Venus's morning (Phosphoros = "light-bringer") and evening (Hesperos = "evening one") appearances as one planet is credited to Pythagoras (around 550–500 BCE) or sometimes Parmenides (early 5th century BCE). Before that (pre-6th century BCE and perhaps into the early 6th), if Greeks commented on them at all, they likely treated the bright morning and evening "stars" as separate objects.
However, this dual perception did not lead them to count 7 planets (or 6 wanderers excluding Sun/Moon). Sources consistently describe the classical Greek count as 5 visible wanderers (Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn) + Sun + Moon = 7 wanderers total—even in periods when dual names existed for Venus (and later for Mercury).

Why no inflation to 7+?Even if casual observers or poets thought of "morning star" and "evening star" as different, systematic sky-watchers (influenced by Babylonian records, which treated Venus as one body from ~2000 BCE onward) would track positions over time and notice the pattern.
The cosmological models (from Pythagoreans onward) emphasized harmonious numbers (like 7 or 10), but always stuck to 5 true planets + Sun/Moon.
No ancient source describes a phase where Greeks counted two Venuses as separate planets in their wanderer tally.

In short: Before ~500 BCE, we lack direct Greek evidence on how (or if) they formally counted/classified these objects. They probably observed the same 5 bright wanderers we do, possibly with Venus seen as two "stars" in poetic/practical terms, but this didn't change the underlying count to 7 planets. The 5 + Sun + Moon = 7 wanderers framework solidifies in the 6th–4th centuries BCE with philosophers like Pythagoras, Plato, and Aristotle.

> And before greeks? Did Sumers or Egyptians place planets into fixed sequences?

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Yes, both the Sumerians (and their successors, the Babylonians/Akkadians in Mesopotamia) and the ancient Egyptians observed and tracked the visible planets long before the Greeks systematized their astronomy in the 6th–4th centuries BCE. They placed the planets (and other celestial bodies like the Sun and Moon) into fixed sequences or ordered lists for practical, calendrical, astrological, and religious purposes—often associating them with gods, using them in omen texts, or incorporating them into timekeeping schemes.These early systems were not geocentric cosmological models like the later Greek ones (with spheres and epicycles), but they did recognize the planets as distinct "wandering" objects and grouped them in consistent orders in various texts and traditions.Mesopotamian (Sumerian/Babylonian) sequencesThe Sumerians (from around 3000–2000 BCE) began naming and observing some planets/constellations, with roots in even earlier periods. By the Old Babylonian period (~2000–1600 BCE) and especially in later compilations, planets were systematically listed and ordered.The key early compendium is MUL.APIN (~1200–1000 BCE, with roots in earlier traditions), the oldest surviving comprehensive Babylonian astronomical text. It catalogs stars, constellations, heliacal risings, and includes the planets among celestial phenomena, though it focuses more on fixed stars and Moon/Sun paths than a strict planetary sequence.
In bilingual lists and omen texts (from ~1800 BCE onward), the seven "planets" (including Sun and Moon) appear in a standard order, often tied to gods:Moon (Sin)
Sun (Shamash)
Jupiter (Marduk / "White Star")
Venus (Ishtar / Dilbat)
Saturn (Ninurta / Ninip)
Mercury (Nabu / Nebo / Šiḫṭu)
Mars (Nergal / Ṣalbatānu)

This order (Jupiter-Venus-Saturn-Mercury-Mars in some variants) appears in cuneiform sources from the 2nd millennium BCE onward, with slight variations (e.g., Mercury and Saturn swapping places in later texts). It reflects brightness, astrological importance (benefic/malefic qualities), or observational patterns rather than orbital distance.Babylonians tracked planetary motions meticulously (e.g., Venus phenomena from ~1800 BCE, full ephemerides by ~5th century BCE), using them for omens in series like Enuma Anu Enlil. They treated the five visible planets + Sun + Moon as a group of seven divine "wanderers," similar to the later Greek count.Ancient Egyptian sequencesEgyptian astronomy was more focused on timekeeping (decans for dividing the night) and the Nile calendar than on planetary motions, but they did observe and depict the planets from the Old Kingdom onward (~2500 BCE+), often as gods or in symbolic forms.Planets were not as central as in Mesopotamia, but by the New Kingdom (~1550–1070 BCE) and especially in the Late/Ptolemaic periods, they appear in temple ceilings, coffins, and zodiacs (e.g., Dendera zodiac ~50 BCE).
The 36 decans (star groups for nightly hours, from ~2100 BCE) were the primary sequence for time division, starting with Sirius (Sothis). Planets were sometimes integrated or depicted separately (e.g., as gods like Horus variants or in planetary representations on ceilings).
In later Greco-Egyptian syncretism (Ptolemaic era, after ~300 BCE), planets were assigned to decans or zodiac signs, but earlier Egyptian records show planets as individual entities (e.g., "stars that do not know rest") without a rigid fixed sequence like the Babylonian god-order.
No single "canonical" planetary order survives from pre-Hellenistic Egypt comparable to MUL.APIN or omen lists—focus was on heliacal risings, decans, and solar/lunar cycles.

In summary: Mesopotamians (Sumerian/Babylonian tradition) had clearer fixed sequences/orders for the planets by the 2nd millennium BCE (e.g., in god-associated lists from ~1800 BCE+), treating them as part of a divine seven-luminaries group. Egyptians observed planets early but prioritized stellar decans and calendar over a strict planetary hierarchy. Both cultures influenced later Greek astronomy (via Babylonian zodiac adoption in Hellenistic Egypt), but the Greeks built more elaborate models on these foundations. No evidence suggests they counted more/less than the five visible planets + Sun/Moon before telescopes.

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> Did Sumerians not include Moon & Sun to the sequence? Were there only the stars? Jupiter-Venus-Saturn-Mercury-Mars?

Different texts show slight variations in the order (based on brightness, astrological importance, god hierarchy, or observational factors), but the Sun and Moon are consistently at or near the beginning:One common bilingual (Sumerian-Akkadian) list from the British Museum and other sources gives:
Moon (Sin) → Sun (Shamash) → Jupiter (Marduk) → Venus (Ishtar) → Saturn (Ninurta/Ninip) → Mercury (Nabu/Nebo) → Mars (Nergal).
In the important MUL.APIN compendium (~1200–1000 BCE, with earlier roots):
It asserts that the Sun and the planets all travel the same path as the Moon (i.e., along the ecliptic, near what became the zodiac). One passage lists them in an order like Sun → Jupiter → Venus → Mars → Mercury → Saturn (Moon often implied or listed first separately as the primary reference).
Another frequent variant (especially in later omen and astrological contexts): Moon → Sun → Jupiter → Venus → Mercury → Saturn → Mars (or swaps like Mercury/Saturn).

These are not strict orbital distances (as in later Greek models) but rankings tied to visibility, divine power, or ritual importance. The five planets alone (Jupiter-Venus-Saturn-Mercury-Mars) sometimes appear in subgroup lists (e.g., in planetary omen series like Enuma Anu Enlil), but the full divine/astronomical group was seven, including Sun and Moon.



The most ancient known sequence of the seven luminaries (the "wandering" celestial bodies: Moon, Sun, and the five visible planets) comes from Mesopotamian (Sumerian/Babylonian) traditions, dating back to at least the 2nd millennium BCE (Old Babylonian period, with roots possibly earlier in Sumerian times around 2000–1800 BCE or before). This is preserved in bilingual god lists, omen texts, and astronomical/religious compilations like those influencing MUL.APIN (~1200–1000 BCE, but drawing on older material).The earliest and most commonly attested order in surviving sources (e.g., a bilingual list from the British Museum and similar cuneiform records) is tied to major deities and reflects factors like visibility/brightness, astrological beneficence, or divine hierarchy rather than modern orbital distance:

Moon (earliest/foremost, as the primary timekeeper and "father" of the Sun in myth)  Sumerian: 𒀭𒋀𒆠 dNanna (or 𒀭𒋀𒆠 dNanna(r))          Akkadian/Babylonian: 𒀭𒂗𒍪 dEN.ZU or 𒀭𒌍 d30 (Sin/Sîn)

Sun  Sumerian: 𒀭𒌓 dUtu          Akkadian/Babylonian: 𒀭𒌓 dUTU or 𒀭20 d20 (Šamaš)

Jupiter (often the "king" planet, linked to the chief god)  Sumerian/Babylonian: 𒀯𒀭𒀫𒌓 MUL dAMAR.UTU or 𒀯𒈠𒈾 MUL dMarduk (star of Marduk); also 𒀯𒁉𒀀𒁉 MUL BABBAR ("white star") or 𒀯𒌓𒀯𒋫𒀀𒊒 MUL UD.AL.TAR / MUL SAG.ME.GAR

Venus  Sumerian: 𒀭𒈹 dInanna (or 𒀯𒀭𒈹 MUL dInanna)  Akkadian/Babylonian: 𒀯𒀭𒅖𒋫𒀭 MUL dIštar or 𒀯𒁹𒀭 dDil-bat / d15

Saturn  Sumerian/Babylonian: Often 𒀭𒀏 dNinurta (or 𒀭𒈹𒀭 dMAŠ); also 𒀯𒉈𒀭 MUL GENNA ("the steady/small one")

Mercury  Sumerian/Babylonian: 𒀯𒀭𒀝 MUL dNabû (or 𒀯𒄞𒌓 GU₄.UD / UDU.IDIM.GU₄.UD "jumping bull/star"); linked to Nabû/Nebo

Mars  Sumerian/Babylonian: 𒀭𒄈𒀀 dNergal (or 𒀯𒊩𒀀 MUL Ṣalbatānu / MUL Sal-bat-a-nu "the destroyer")

Notes on this sequenceThis Moon → Sun → Jupiter → Venus → Saturn → Mercury → Mars order appears in early bilingual god/planet lists and is described as one of the "original" arrangements in scholarly analyses of Mesopotamian texts. A later variant swapped Saturn and Mercury (Moon → Sun → Jupiter → Venus → Mercury → Saturn → Mars), but the above is among the earliest attested.
Sumerian names are often logographic (using god signs with determinatives like 𒀭 d for deity or 𒀯 MUL for star/planet), and many were adopted/read in Akkadian by Babylonian times.
These are not strictly "Sumerian-only" (pure Sumerian planetary astronomy is sparse before Akkadian influence), but this reflects the Sumerian-origin deity associations that carried into Babylonian records—the oldest coherent seven-luminary system known.
No earlier fixed sequence (pre-2000 BCE) survives in detail; earlier Sumerian observations focused more on individual bodies (e.g., Venus as Inanna) without a standardized seven-list.

This seven-group laid the foundation for the seven-day week, astrology, and later Greek/Roman planetary orders.

The minuscule d in front of names of those deities is "silent marker for "divine name" (from the cuneiform sign 𒀭 [dingir] meaning "god")

MUL is Sumerian for Star.

These three bodies (Moon, Sun, Venus) were the most visible and astrologically/ritually important in many contexts:They received simple numerical logograms (shorthand) in late texts, especially horoscopes, astronomical diaries, astrological reports, and esoteric/symbolic writings (e.g., in the Assyrian "tree of life" symbolism).
The numbers tied to symbolic meanings (e.g., 20 for the Sun as justice/order, 15 for Venus as beauty, 30 for the Moon's ~monthly cycle).
This practice appears mainly in the 1st millennium BCE (Neo-Assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, and later periods), often in abbreviated or cryptic styles for scribes.



Since Saturn ~ Satan, I wonder if GENNA ~ ГЕЕННА
Гее́нна[1] (ивр. גהנום, גהנם‎ «Ге-гинном»[2], др.-греч. γέεννα огненная) — символ Судного дня в иудаизме и христианстве, в исламе является равнозначным слову «ад».
Название образовано от названия долины Еннома к юго-западу от Иерусалима, где хананейцы занимались идолопоклонством, а позже ставшей местом свалки нечистот. Смрад, шедший от этой долины, сделал её впоследствии символом ада (Матф. 5:22)[2].
(забавно. Мусульмане словно знают что они не заслуживают рая (может к гуриям их до судного дня поместят, а после в ад (или вообще "Аллах величайший из обманщиков")))
В исламском богословии выражение «Аллах — лучший из лжецов» не встречается. Искажение смысла часто происходит из-за неверного перевода арабского слова «макр» (хитрость/уловка), которое в Коране (3:54) описывает Аллаха как «лучшего из хитрецов» («хайруль-макирин»), что означает высшую способность обращать коварство неверующих против них самих, а не человеческую ложь:  Они (неверующие) хитрили, и Аллах хитрил, а ведь Аллах - Наилучший из хитрецов.
в европейской этике Богу нет смысла хитрить, ибо он есть Истина.
В русском языке Лукавый означает одновременно лжеца, хитреца и Диавола.

Но это старая песня: бог твоего врага есть твой сатана.

тем не менее, Gemini настаивает:
Ключевые аспекты темы:
    Хитрость (Макр): В контексте Корана — это божественная стратегия защиты верующих и наказания тех, кто замышляет зло, что считается благом, а не пороком.
    Отношение ко лжи: Ислам строго запрещает ложь, считая ее тяжким грехом, ведущим к Огню.
    Атрибуты Аллаха: Коран подчеркивает, что Аллах правдив, а ложь — свойство неверующих.
Ложь в человеческом понимании несовместима с божественной природой в исламе. Понятие «хитрость Аллаха» — это военная или стратегическая доблесть, направленная на восстановление справедливости.

тем не менее, с точки зрения европейца это выглядит как хуцпа сатаны: он прямо говорит покорным что ложь ведёт в ад, но называт ложь другим словом и выдаёт её за доблесть.
Как говорится, ты Антошка как мартышка: всё хитришь, а жопа голая.
(но эта уловка во всех религиях: они прямо запрещают убивать пугая адскими муками, а затем называют убийство другим словом и типа обстряпали. Диавол правит на Земле, христиане молят Бога водворить царство божье и на земле яко на небеси)

> GENNA the Saturn, is it a cognate of γέεννα? Were Canaanites worshiping Saturn in Енном?

No, "GENNA" (the Sumerian logographic name for the planet Saturn in Babylonian astronomy) is not a cognate of Greek γέεννα (geenna / Gehenna). The two words are unrelated in etymology, origin, and meaning, despite superficial phonetic similarity (both start with "gen-" sounds and involve "n" elements). This is a case of coincidental resemblance, not linguistic connection.Etymology and meaning of GENNA (Saturn)GENNA (often written in cuneiform as MUL GENNA or simply GENNA) is a Sumerian term used in Mesopotamian astronomical texts (from at least the 1st millennium BCE, with roots earlier) to refer to Saturn.
Its Akkadian equivalent is Šerru (or similar forms), meaning "small," "tiny," "wee," or "little one."
This reflects Saturn's appearance: it is one of the dimmest and slowest-moving visible planets, hence "small" or "steady/tiny" in contrast to brighter/faster ones like Jupiter or Venus.
Primary names for Saturn were Kayyāmānu ("the steady/constant one") or MUL UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ ("star of the steady foot"), with GENNA as a less common, descriptive shorthand for its faintness.
It was often associated with the god Ninurta (war, agriculture, sometimes "evening Sun"), but the word itself derives from Sumerian roots implying smallness/diminutiveness (e.g., related to signs like GE/INNA or TUR.DIŠ variants meaning "small" or "child-like").
No ancient sources link this term to Hebrew, Canaanite, or later Greek words for valleys or punishment.Etymology and meaning of γέεννα / GehennaGehenna (Greek Γέεννα) is a direct transliteration of Hebrew גֵּיא בֶן־הִנֹּם (gê ben-hinnōm) or גֵי הִנֹּם (gê hinnōm), meaning "Valley of (the son of) Hinnom."
Hinnom is a proper name (likely a personal or clan name), referring to a real geographical valley south/southwest of Jerusalem.
In the Hebrew Bible (e.g., Joshua 15:8; Jeremiah 7:31–32; 19:6), it's infamous as the site of child sacrifices to Molech (a Canaanite/Ammonite god) during certain periods of Israelite idolatry (e.g., under kings Ahaz and Manasseh).
By the time of the New Testament, Gehenna had evolved into a symbolic term for divine judgment/punishment (fiery destruction), influenced by its historical association with fire, death, and defilement (later as a refuse-burning site in tradition, though not definitively proven archaeologically for the 1st century CE).
No Babylonian or Sumerian influence is documented in its etymology—it's purely Semitic (Hebrew/Aramaic) and topographic.
Were Canaanites worshiping Saturn in the Valley of Hinnom (Ennom / Gehenna)?No credible historical or archaeological evidence supports this. The Valley of Hinnom (Hebrew Ge Hinnom) was associated with Canaanite/Phoenician-style worship of Molech (or Milcom), involving child sacrifice by fire (2 Kings 23:10; Jeremiah 7:31; 2 Chronicles 28:3; 33:6). This was condemned in the Hebrew Bible as an abomination.
Molech is a West Semitic (Canaanite/Ammonite/Phoenician) deity linked to fertility, fire, and possibly underworld aspects—not to the planet Saturn.
Saturn worship (as a planet-god) was Mesopotamian (Babylonian/Assyrian), with associations to Ninurta or later syncretisms (e.g., with Shamash as "Sun of the night"). It spread westward via Phoenician/Carthaginian channels (e.g., Baal-Hammon sometimes equated with Saturn/Kronos in Greco-Roman sources), but there's no link to the specific site of Ge Hinnom or Molech rituals there.
Theories connecting Saturn to Canaanite child sacrifice or Gehenna often appear in modern esoteric/conspiracy contexts (e.g., linking "Saturnalia" or planetary symbolism to ancient cults), but mainstream scholarship finds no evidence for Saturn worship in the Valley of Hinnom. The site's notoriety stems from biblical Molech/Baal practices, not Babylonian astral religion.
In summary: Pure coincidence in sound—no etymological link between Babylonian GENNA (Saturn = "tiny/steady") and Greek/Hebrew Gehenna ("Valley of Hinnom"). No Saturn cult in that valley; it was tied to Canaanite child sacrifice to Molech.

> and Moloch is Mars, not Saturn, right?

No, Moloch (or Molech) is not primarily or originally associated with Mars in ancient sources. The biblical and Near Eastern evidence points more consistently to connections with Saturn in later interpretive traditions (especially Greco-Roman and some biblical exegesis), though the core Canaanite/Ammonite deity was likely tied to fire, kingship, and possibly solar or Baal-like aspects rather than any specific planet in the earliest records.What the ancient sources say about MolochMoloch appears in the Hebrew Bible as a deity (or possibly a ritual term/title meaning "king" or "the king") linked to child sacrifice by fire in the Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna). It was associated with Ammonite and Phoenician/Canaanite practices (e.g., Leviticus 18:21, 2 Kings 23:10, Jeremiah 32:35).
In Canaanite religion, Moloch is often seen as a form or title of Baal (or Baal-Hammon in Phoenician/Carthaginian contexts), a storm/fertility god sometimes solarized (linked to the sun or fire). There's no direct Canaanite evidence equating Moloch with Mars (the war/destruction planet, associated with Nergal in Mesopotamia).
Mars (Nergal in Babylonian terms) was a god of plague, war, and the underworld—not child sacrifice by fire.

The Saturn associationThis link emerges mainly in later interpretations:In Amos 5:26 (quoted in Acts 7:43), the condemnation of carrying the "tabernacle of your Moloch" and the "star of your god Chiun/Rephan/Kaiwan" is tied by some ancient and modern scholars to the planet Saturn (Kaiwan/Kayvan was an ancient name for Saturn in Assyrian/Persian/Arabic traditions).
Greco-Roman sources (e.g., via Phoenician syncretism) equated Baal-Hammon (sometimes linked to Moloch rites in Carthage) with Cronus/Saturn, the god of time, harvest, and (in mythic retellings) child-devouring (Cronus ate his children). This fueled the Saturn-Moloch equation in esoteric, astrological, and some Christian/Jewish polemical writings.
Modern discussions (e.g., in astrology blogs, occult texts, or biblical encyclopedias) often repeat "Moloch = Saturn" due to themes of cruelty, materialism, restriction, and child sacrifice paralleling Saturn's "malefic" astrological traits (cold, slow, limiting, associated with lead and the "jealous god").
However, mainstream biblical scholarship views Moloch as a West Semitic (Canaanite/Ammonite) deity or sacrificial rite, not inherently planetary. The Saturn link is a later syncretic overlay from Hellenistic times onward, not original to Canaanite worship.

Mars connection?There's virtually no ancient or scholarly support for Moloch = Mars. Mars/Nergal was destructive and martial, but child sacrifice by fire aligns more with underworld/fire gods like those tied to Baal or (later) Saturn/Cronus. Any Mars link would be extremely fringe or mistaken.In short: The stronger (though still interpretive/post-biblical) planetary tie is to Saturn, not Mars. The original Canaanite Moloch was about kingship ("melek" = king), fire offerings, and likely a form of Baal—not a planet per se.

> Mars in Coptic?

In Coptic (the latest stage of the Egyptian language, written in a Greek-based alphabet from roughly the 2nd century CE onward), the planet Mars was called ⲙⲟⲗⲟⲭ (transliterated as molokh or molok in Bohairic Coptic, the most common dialect for such terms).This name derives from Demotic Egyptian mlẖ (or similar forms), continuing ancient Egyptian astronomical traditions where Mars was associated with red deities like "Red Horus" (Hr-dSr or Hrw-dSr) due to its reddish color visible in the sky.
In Coptic texts (especially astrological, astronomical, or borrowed from Greco-Egyptian sources), ⲙⲟⲗⲟⲭ is attested as the proper name for the planet Mars.
Interestingly, the same word ⲙⲟⲗⲟⲭ also means the god Moloch (the biblical/Canaanite deity associated with child sacrifice), showing a homonymy or possible syncretic overlap in late Egyptian/Coptic usage—though in planetary contexts, it specifically refers to Mars.
Other Coptic planetary names (for context)From sources like Coptic dictionaries and astronomical glossaries:Mercury: ⲥⲟⲩⲕⲏ (souke) or ⲉⲣⲙⲏⲥ (ermēs, from Greek Hermes)
Venus: ⲥⲟⲩⲣⲟⲧ (sourot, often for the evening star)
Jupiter: ⲍⲉⲩⲥ (zeus, from Greek Zeus)
Saturn: ⲣⲏⲫⲁⲛ (rēphan, from Greek Rephan/Kaiwan)
Moon: ⲓⲟϩ (ioh)
Sun: Often retained as ⲣⲏ (rē, from ancient Egyptian Ra)
Coptic planetary nomenclature was heavily influenced by Greek (via Hellenistic Egypt) and earlier Demotic/Egyptian traditions, especially in astrological papyri and Manichaean texts. The use of ⲙⲟⲗⲟⲭ for Mars is a distinctive carryover from pre-Coptic Egyptian astronomy rather than a direct Greek borrowing (Greek used Ἄρης / Arēs).



Tarot is a jewish word because ot is a plural suffix, which is perfect here.
It is hebrew read in french.   but that suffix is ות, tarot is טארוט (but then again, orthography is rather arbitrary, and I sugest even gematria not having straightened it up: I know some hebrew words having different orthographic variants. Nothing comes to mind at the moment, but I remember I saw such examples) תאר is describe, which fits the meaning of tarot rather well. Divinations describe.

תואר / תֹּאַר • (tó'ar) m (plural indefinite תְּאָרִים, plural construct תוארי / תׇּאֳרֵי־) [pattern: קֹטֶל]
    title, classification, rank
    appellation, sobriquet, nickname
    (grammar) adjective
    academic degree
    (literary) appearance, description, physiognomy

תואר / תֹּאַר • (to'ár) (pu'al construction, active counterpart תיאר / תֵּאֵר)
    to be described
תיאר / תֵּאֵר • (te'ér) (pi'el construction, passive counterpart תואר / תֹּאַר)
    to describe

and these are some examples of variative orthography I was just speaking of.



red is literally read in the past (a single word doesn't tell you how to read it, yolu need a context,
(that grey text may be annoying, especially to llm, but maybe it learns to ignore grey text in this text.
we can read it without much problem and "evertything you can do I can do better, I ca n do anything better than you" but I was told to collect typos, what if we see some anomalies, that after some ff I tenx to ..tend to place ] or somthng, x instead of d is not so impressive, just a slip. What if such slips meatter more? e instead of a is an interesting typo. Phonetic typo (on the keyboared they're not next to eachotehr. and then there are recombination typos. I wonder if there are others, I see this theese (grammatic typo) and I wonder what else is there. A h whole word (h typoed instead of w is phonetic typo) is a separate group. And then whole thoughts sometimes are not important, so they could eb edited out. eb instead of be is recombination typo, a sub something of grammatic type typo. type instead of typo is lexia lexical typo/ , next entry in the mind dictionary. a instead of c is an ommition typo (a is the next letter) / is not the next key from , so it is a mysterious typo. A spacebar in front of , is the space bet.. after , for my mind thought that . fuck. , wtf, / was / instead of .,")

Speaking of y typoes I started making really many typos. but I always struggled with , (maybe because in russian keyboard it is aelsewhere. And that is exactly why there was/ instead of ./, was



Green ~ Growing


Yellow? Hello! Something Sunny. or is it Jello like Jelly, like желатин~жёлтый? Желлоў? Желаю?


Blue is literally blue (they're read the same time, there are red in the same time)


Black ~ Block?


White ~ Wide?


Grey/Gray ~ Grew? Like dry stick, which used to be green and growing and now grey?


Read is read  (а почему красные от того что читал? может Rad!? Rad is Red, Raduical? u instead of i didn't feel like a slip. Okay, I speoke about it, (e instead of o is grammatical) and we dont' even know which is which if the author himself doesn't recall what happened there.
And any text can be scanned for typos, in paper texts they are of different nature maybe. maybe sometimes. Slip would look different, like nothing else sometimes.

So let's not preserve typoes. Typoes or typos? Let's not even use this word, I don't need chaos in my fingers. Let's organize the workspace, let's be individual. Whatever it means, of something else I thought. of appeared tehre опережая мыслью ю шты . ю insteadf . of . is a keyboard typo. (раскладка другая, layout is different)

out is рас.. не предложение с конца начинать переводить, а слово. Особенно с русского на английские: делать = do deal (not to do! (деловой не значит рабочий (русские держали кррабов!)))
(ыщьу some weird typos I will paint grey and don't edi.. delit them (was edi a weird persistent lexic typo? I organize the sources of typos. Now maybe I may control them better. But I want to be relaxed to. Not to allow false sygnals make it more diffeicult ro to read. Ntakie kotorye ne slova srazu vidny (n.. tak li?)

раскладка кладка=lay, рас=out? (раз[рас[ras]] is one (an alternative one (coloquial "one")))
colloquial of call? co-locuial ~ co-local? местное наречие. Я удалять начинаю опечатки. Новая политика журнала. Никому о ней не нужно скучным текстом сообщеать. Или оаставлять? Для тех кто тоже опечатается так же? для посиковых запросов. Так давай не слишьком дикие стараться опечатки допускать.

Esli i po ruski klavu ne perkluchaa pisat, to mojet i oi.. j.. j. oshibok stanet menshe. I must forget russian keyboard, I may even forget russian language. But to look deep you need to be a native speaker. I'm forever a great russian writer.

Но я ещё раз призываю рассматривать язык от первых принципов. Сначала следует их найти.

Морфемы важней слов. Смотри на я-зык как на морф-ем-ы




Looking for that image I found these beauties:

The diametre of the planets is exaggerated, only to show you which of the stars they are.

And the next two images show the importance of the stars: they're the scale upon each Moon moves by a large angle each day.


Moon moves counter-clockwise? Not necessarily. It moves much faster than that, here it made a whole lap. Actually, no, it moves that little relative to the stars. That us the Earth rotate that lap. Also check the axis around which we roll:
  (mirror)
It's weak that I do not film it myself so I don't even know if it's not filmed in Southern hemisphere,
well, we do what we can. Here:
  (mirror)

Norther sky does roll counter-clockwise.
Clockwise rotates its reflection, the shadow of the sun dial.

And maybe here to observe clockwise rotation is a lucky task: you can positions on ground, and if you observe the sun, its reflection doesn't damage your eyes.




ᛆᛒᚦ
ᛂᚠᚵᚼ
ᛁᚴᛚᛘᚿ
ᚮᚱᛦᛋᛏᚢ

A B C D
E F G H
I J K L M N
O P Q R S T
U V W X Y Z

A B D
E F G H
I K L M N
O P R S T V

Italian doesn't have K (and I do not know one famous italian King. Probably because they were separated into separate kingdoms even longer than germany was)

 ᚠᚢᚦᚮᚱᚴ᛬ᚼᚿᛁᛆᛋ᛬ᛐᛒᛘᛚᛦmedieval fuþark(13~16c)ᚡv ᚤy,v ᚧð ᚰǫ,å ᚵg ᚶng ᛀn ᛀN ᛂe ᛅä ᛍc ᛎz ᛑd ᛔp ᛕp ᛛL

ᛆᛒᚦ
ᚠᚼ
ᛁᚴᛚᛘᚿ
ᚮᚱᛦᛋᛐᚢ

I rearranged the medieval futhark (the most certain one, the one which was in use during its description, not reconstructued) Which is exactly the bornholm runes minus two dotted variants. And I see e and g
(in the right part of that futhark)
ᛆᛒᚦ
ᛂᚠᚵᚼ
ᛁᚴᛚᛘᚿ
ᚮᚱᛦᛋᛐᚢ

Check the difference between ᛆ[a] and ᛅ[ä]
Check the difference between ᚮ[o] and ᚰ[ǫ,å] and I thought å was o, but what is the difference?
(what is the source of that transliteration I don't know. If I can trust it I don't know. I guess. Let's consider it a local tradition, even if in the locus of that researcher and now myself.

Without the dotted variants, younger futhark would go like this:

ᛆ ᛒ ᚦ ᚠ ᚼ    ~   a б д в г   similar to russian   a б в г д   more than to 𐎀a 𐎁b 𐎂c 𐎃ḫ 𐎄d
ᛁ ᚴ  ᛚ ᛘ ᚿ
ᚮ ᚱ ᛦ ᛋ ᛐ    [o p r s t], IO insist




"Aham Brahmasmi" ("I am Brahman").    actually, "I Brahman-am", Grok there explains it.
I am, or, in Irwin Welsh's orthography Ah am is literally Aham in sanskrit.
Aham (अहम्) = "I" (first-person singular nominative pronoun).
This is the subject: "I". (As we discussed, pronounced roughly "uh-hum" or "ah-hum", close to a casual "ah am" in phonetic spelling.)
Brahma (ब्रह्म) = "Brahman" (the ultimate, infinite, absolute Reality/Consciousness in Vedanta—often left untranslated or rendered as "the Divine", "the Absolute", or "cosmic consciousness").
Note: In the compound form here, it's Brahma- (stem) + the verb, so "Brahman" (neuter nominative singular).
Asmi (अस्मि) = "am" or "I am" (but literally just the verb "am/exist").
This is the first-person singular present indicative of the verb √as (to be/exist).  In Sanskrit, the verb "to be" often drops the pronoun when context is clear, so asmi alone can imply "I am". 
But strictly speaking, asmi = "am" (the copula linking subject to predicate). 
Full conjugation example: aham asmi = "I am"; tvam asi = "you are"; etc. 
The "-smi" ending is the personal suffix for first-person singular in this verb class (like English "-am" in "I am").
So the literal, word-for-word translation is:
Aham (I) + Brahma (Brahman) + asmi (am) → "I Brahman am" or more naturally in English word order: "I am Brahman".

and it explains some more:

Brahman = the infinite ocean. 
Brahma = one wave on that ocean (the creative function personified).



So, all the space is that ocean.
Brahman is creator of this world (according to India, in his dream, as humans create worlds)
(but maybe that is only because that is the only kind of creation we humans knew for some long time)




Thinking of how if nazis succeeded in space program, probably with help with russian cosmists, and naturally they had (would have) traitors and sabateurs in their ranks, russians sympathizing russia.



Russian teachers of english lie that english has 12 times, though it has three times and three conditions (but so dur s.. du ... do russians do: делал делая сделал (итого делал есть базовая позиция, делая меняет окончание, сделал меняет предлог) сйуффикс слишком похоже на префикс, отныене они окончание и приставка.. даже представка

представка вставка и заставка. тоже три, но к предыдущим вроде не имеет отношения.

но пред значит перед, т.е. literally before.
in is as in the moment
за как завтра?

вчера вечера (чера как чёрнота, ноЧь? на Чь, не NoЧь. нåЧь
сегодня сего дня
завтра за утро



Переезжал ссылки на озвучку и осмотр отвалились.
Прикрутил обратно, обратив внимание, что Аудио как А, Видео как В, Comment как С.
Video is also Movie, which also includes v, btw. v eYe (vidi, видь[vidь])

A M C (was it A M K and A B K? A V K? A V D in ᛆᛒᚦ. AVZ? INЗ INШ IVN IΛN IΛM)

IΛM and IΛN as the eastern order, because it is natural to be expected to be because
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mouth is in that direction: vowels in throat, linguals in mouth, labials on lips.

и потому что гласные требудт гласную, горло и орло, от слова орала, и орёл потому что орёт.
орёл орал, орлан орал(он)

And now I see that C is not comment, but contact.
Not mail, of which I thought when I wrote "And now I see", that page is always named contact


a eAr
Y eYe (V (Ygrek is U-greek (in russian и is и[i] and what it tells of importance of russian I dunno)))
C touCh? кон-Тач


English teacher lie so that kids don't know english.

Past Present Future is literally name of three Norns.
It's such a fundamental thing for the human mind, that messing with that block the field in which it is done. Is it why history of our motherland is always on tv?  To make the past our present, so we don't know the future or something.

Was that understanding fought by some christians or even prechristian patriarchy? Because it's heathen through and through. Or was it just sweeped under the rug by reformers of cultures. The questions are only recently raised, the answers will be in the future or each have your own.


Ухо  (from u to o)
Око (from o to a)
Ащуще́ние? (from a to e to ий and отскок на е)

Нисходящее гармониё (гармонии, гармоники, гармони)


уХи
оЧи
аЩущи        (как в ХЦЧШЩ)     ощути[ащути~ащучи, как в ащущение]
забавно, ишь как запрятали: ощути, но почувствуй
чу значит "слышь?", видимо когната её "чё?"
чё как чу, типа повтори не слышал
къ у (где у есть уху от слова ухо. с приставкой к оно к_уху)
чу = к уху (тогда мы знаем значение букв к и у)

а б в г д
е ё ж з
и й ко л м н
о п р с т
ухо ф х ц ч ш щ
ъ ы ь э ю я
но ниже говорят что и, а не у

I:  ear hear хи ухи (общая часть и[i])
JK: eye see очи глаза, ничего общего jk (eye the eije & око (ei=яйцо, eye=eyeball))
LMN? Love Me, Love Me, Say that you love me. Naked. Nude. as if Newborn as if Nuked

но в русском иRU[i] это и есть y[i]
но в английском уRU[u] это и есть u[u]














































































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