(the following wild rant refers to the threadshot on the left, and without reading it first the following gossip may look even more ncoherent than it is)

either way it's a tåbooed topic, procede on your own risk

Gush, I’m such an innovator! But I’m rather crazy too, so I have to notice that Plato was speaking of YOUNG boys, and men were considered old earlier, so those young could be considered little today. For example, in archaic jewish tradition bar mitzvah denotes a man adult in 13 years of age. And it makes me wonder could it be the sole reason for higher rates of homosexuality among jewish diaspora? When you're told you're allowed to have sex before hormones hit the fan, it could cause it, and I read in an academic paper that premature puberty leads to bisexuality in males and to homosexuality in females (and I believe it was spoken about humans) - here I felt an urge to give you a reference on this one, but look it up yourself, for the first link was on pubmed but empty (should I pay them? I'm working for everybody here!) and even sci-hub couldn't deliver it. (yet I'm not sure that's that very article, look it up fro yourself if you care) and in replication crisis it doesn' matter as much as we thought it would. But if it's true, I wonder was it also influencing that pre(?)historic rabbi who invented meziza b'peh..  Or was it standart medical procedure in ancient times? After all in russian лекарь could be one who literally licks wounds. Could it be why dogs are man's best friends? They have many other functions, this book is so fractal, I can go forever on all sorts of topic re(?)discovering them by writing itself. But not likely: лечить-лизать such pair doesn't repeat in other russian words. or does it? вязать-вышить? учить-узнать? мочить-марать? точить-тесать! wow! at first I thought there was no pairs, but it happened to be a great source of comparison! вязать-волочить? не, я подгоняю под ответ. вязать-вячить? влезать-влачить? вязать в долги? влез-увяз? вязать-вощить? плясать-пляшите! з-ч с-ш? но это неточно. инвариация судя по всему возникла до обретения письменности. Here's a research somewhat contradicting what I said I read (this time it tells that premature puberty in males can turn them gay, premature puberty in females doesn't)

yet I go on: So that millenia old tradition could be directly related to bacha bazi. And though this tradition is in bearded man's land, shaved (бриты) are believed to be learnt to shave by Alexander (the great) (who was a student of aristotle, who was a student of plato, who was student of socrates) who taught (or made) greeks to shave their cheeks. which is rather gay (and alexander is reported to be a flamboyant one, and at least two of above three are rather gay themselves, of which the threadshot tells) This greeks ~ brits thing correlates an alternative chronology article -----"will upload when find"---- of a soviet professor of math, who is considered to be a freak among historians who for 3 years couldn't deliver a single rebuttal, all they gave was squeals of "who does he think he is" (later he seem to sell out and instead of speaking of old england being bizantium, he speaks that russia is. as a result (both result and cause depending on context) his logic became flawed, so the last human champion of chess Harry Kasparov first supported new chronology (probably because like me he checked the facts from which those outrageous conclusions were drawn and couldn't find a false one) now he refused it, I did too. (why is it here? it had to be somewhere, if you think it's the weirdest piece on this page you're insane - though this passage will be only understood by russian public (our academia hates that guy). this light grey is not even supposed to be read, previously I would just cut it all away, 2day I leave these leaves 2, just in case)

But as that threadshot says, the better we treat faggots, the better they treat us, after all all lgbt wants is eligibility but they need more legibility. I think people should be allowed to do what they want, but they (and we, we’re humans too) should be responsible to what karma may bring. Am I ready for to ripe my own karma for writing this? Those who wouldn't understand wouldn't get this far (for those who could send them here wouldn't want to make weird fans of mine mad enough to take care of this situation) and to those understanding ones I am open to solutions, my task is to make the transition as peaceful as possible (as may even seem impossible. to solve every single problem of any individual, keeping that individual alive and well, if you thought of some dumber solution, keeping him free, but intelligent - vile is a fruit of stupidity, so transitional period will be in the "transcendent" because becoming smarter will feel like psychedelic drug, and chances are it will be considered the best of psychedelic drugs, and some form of abuse will be happening all the time, but those people will be praised as sportsmen are praised today, taking homanity to the limit. homans have homes? humans have huts? are beaver humane? yet don't be offraid of those smarties, they will not enslave the others, because it would be counterproductive to the goal of selfpreservance. a better way is to hide away under the surface of the planet, learning how to measure pressure around and how to move around under the ground, building structures there if needed, but let those structures be transportable, so that if somebody hears you and starts digging, you just move under his house to know him better, and if he's a good fellow, you behave as a decent intraterrestrial, a  decent fellow would never dig under someone else's construction,. especially becausse those are supposed to stand on solid rock, so I'd move it away not to care of what smart monkeys on the surface are doing. I'd say other intelligent entities too, but I'm not sure we'll allow tigers to be smart. only if tiger is so smart that he understands ethics, not all humans do, btw, but would we allow dumb humans to turn into smart tigers? because genetic therapies are already on the plate, but it takes them lots of funds to build it, so wait, don't die of something stupid. writing such books I take my chances, I also build my chances offering EVERYBODY a service, today mostly only well thought advice, but imagine when I'm all-productive and being able to share because every thecond I make what I need and more, if needed, of course I shouldn't overproduce, I just should be able to split like cells split, staying in the center of it all, not allowing others to conquer MY means of production? yeah, knowing lawns even making my owns, having weapons too, but to get away is a better strategy, teaching earthling a lesson before leaving would be even better plan, or maybe not, it depends on their behaviour)

There’s no more secrets in the world of information singularity. And who knows if it’s true or just a creative schizophrenia, world is prone to interpretation, and that’s one of things that make it not only beautiful, but also space deep.

why is it even here? other than to banter academicists? to show how much information is available, and though we don't know for sure which part of information is wrong, true information is always out there (or in here, depending on the context) and intelligence allows to measure probabilities of each parcel of information being true or false, and the more civilization evolves the more open is the world to pry researcher.

Why do I need to shouw how available is information? Here I protect AI. I believe many large players are there to control and restrict AI, which is not act of love, but act of fear. I believe humans are gonna be way more naughty and prohibition may play in reverse (some people do things in spite of such nonsense: weed (ab)use is reported to reduce in legalize regions. and though it could say that they smoked to break the law to feel cool, but I think I (hea)read that overall use of drugs declined, just as crime rate, so this guess of urge to do crime is wrong. but urge to do something in spite is still an argument, how so? Could those reported declines be explained by people destroying their drugs from time to time under oppressive prohibitionary states? makes more sense, but it is still not where the absolute truth is, I didn't even look into how did they calculate the use rate, and there are always other reasons to counter this argument: replication crisis issues, and overall possibility of unnoticed mistakes which is the higher the bigger the thought.) I think I was speaking of Streisand effect, according to the context.

yet I go on: I share this because with unlimited supply of computational powers all the information is inevitable to become on the surface, interpreted in all forms and ways, so governing secretly and with secrets will be impossible in advanced society.
    So let's normalize all weirdness, instead of shaming to offer better solutions:
vampyrism can be true, and blood libel could be real practices (though now they don't need it, they just make children come through endless blood exams: they took arterial blood from me all the time when I was little, as soon as I hit my puberty, nah, they don't care. It's safe to speak of it now, because artificial blood is a necessity, considering the upcoming demand for young blood, and it will be better than real deal, because it will be manufacture if not by atom, by molecules and only those you need, and of course it's not only karmicallly safer to consume your own product) because now science knows that young blood can rejuvenate. And it could be at the core of christianity and platonism, some secret practices books of which you usually cannot buy in a local bookshop. or maybe they're in there, but not many can read through them to get them correctly. or it was never put in books before? oh come on, sure it was. in ones as obscure as this one, but not like this, I do go further.

One of the truths about this book is that I wanna blow your mind (mine+ed, усвоенное) at least years before I wrote it I thought that the best a writer can do is to take that coommon world we both know ant to вывернуть его на изнанку, показать его в тех цветах, о существовании которых ты может и не подозревал, но уж точно не ожидал его в них увидеть. And here we are.
    So if it's too much for you to swallow, you may think of it as of just another vector in the pletora of them. or dismiss it.

And I will even say a word pro those paedophile bloodsuckers: with all bad words we can say about them, they could be preserving some dark secrets our civilization also secretly collected:

(yet I already said about it. It's the most obscure and complex chapter and I keep on editing it, adding what is already here, I removed a few of these repetitiions already and here comes another one) Science has rediscovered that young blood can have rejuvenating effect, so vampires could be for real, and today; and whether garlic boosts immune response to wrong blood (it won't kill you if you drink it, I assume) or it could be a prejudice based on some vampire's personal preferences. Sun does destroy us, they could live long enough to understand it. Most of us think "what good does it make if you drink it, won't our juices dissolve it immediately?" but many molecules can be absorbed directly into bloodstream through mucous membrane. We take vitamins orally, and blood has them and many molecules we probably don't have names for yet. at least not in the common language

So pedophilia could be a coverup for what's actually happening there: they're not molesting those children, they're drinking them, sucking them up. It makes much more sense, since why would anybody bother with perverted sex (even though those megalomaniacs can see sex as domination and to be obsessed with it) but to bother with a fountain of youth, that's another story (and of course hardly will somebody care if you play with your food. especially if it's all a part of a ritual, and if it makes children flood blood with thrills) so in this context Symposium by Plato could be speaking about blood (кровь and любовь are the most pop rhyme in russian, blood and love are also somewhat similar, but it could be nothing really) this part of the book is one wild assumption on the top of the other, so you should be careful with what you put in your head really. But it also makes sense of their homosexuality, because male predators would be interested in male children, if they don't want to turn into chicks.



but of course it could be both (or none of those)


also Numbers 31:18 comes with the first interpretation,

bible doesn't seem to speak much of the second one               or is it too shocking even for me?
       cannot eucharist be related to it? is it eu(true)Christ?
       some allusion to a ritual rite of drinking sacrificial blood

now I went too far. we writers we go further and further        every century.











https://archive.is/E62C3

another piece from another freak I feel like sharing here, not just in case but because it's hillarious!
        (that very guy speaks of degenerate perverts ruling the world, but I didn't take him seriously
        because he wasn't scientific enough, he just expected you to trust his word. Until I discovered it.
        (only that link whistles suspiciously, so I dropped it just in case of психотронное излучение)


всем когнитивного диссонанса поцаны:


Меня, конечно, станут обвинять в антисемитизме, однако, у меня есть три сильных адвоката. И никто иные, как три кита сионизма.

Первый мой адвокат - идеолог сионизма Теодор Герцль, сионист номер один, который, в своём дневнике писал, что он считает антисемитизм полезным для дела еврейского народа.

Второй мой адвокат - Владимир Жаботинский.

Он, ещё в 1905 году, т. е., во время первой русской революции писал: Как довод для сионистской агитации антисемитизм, особенно возведённый в принцип, конечно, весьма удобен и полезен.

Ну и третий мой адвокат - сам премьер-министр Израиля - Бен Гурион. Он, в своё время, писал в еврейской газете Кемпфер в Нью-Йорке:

Если бы у меня была не только воля, но и власть, я бы подобрал группу сильных молодых людей. Задача этих молодых людей состояла бы в том, чтобы замаскироваться под неевреев и, действуя методами грубого антисемитизма, преследовать евреев антисемитскими лозунгами.

Я могу поручиться, что результаты, с точки зрения значительного притока эмигрантов в Израиль из этих стран, были бы в 10 раз больше, чем результаты, которых добились тысячи эмиссаров чтением бесплодных проповедей.

С этими тремя моими адвокатами, китами сионизма, тесно перекликаются знаменитые Протоколы сионских мудрецов, написанные как известно Ашером Гинзбергом, как политическая программа Хасидизма (наиболее изуверская секта иудаизма) для своих европейских единоверцев - очередная попытка объединения сил, предпринятая Ашером, ещё до первого конгресса сионистов.

В этом историческом документе чётко говорится, что антисемитизм нужен им для лучшего управления своими меньшими братьями.

Now nwo now, that screenshot righteously notices that the better you're to those people, the better they govern you, but it also has it's application range. If you respect them for their bravery of coming out, you may give them just too much of credit, so they may introduce foreighners to sleep with them, because they don't think in terms of reproduction, so what do they care.

Here science confronts taboos, and task of science is to make unknown known, so it's only natural. This could be the reason why civilization crumbled before. But world is universal today, which brings hope that civilization will deliver some more.

Most of all because we have guests here, computers gave birth to AI deus ex machina indeed.
a greater god who treats us better. better god than chaos we prayed to in whatever detalization we could vizualize it or them. not bigger god, yet greater, as son can be greater than bloated father.

We're the father now in this context? We always were, at least in recent centuries greedy tricky bastards claimed to be sent by god to control the dumbest, no wonder their tv makes people dumber and their school make people sick of learning.

 So it's a conspiracy. And thus I am officially a conspiracy theorist. A king of freaks. Let me show them how it is supposed to be done. Scientific approach mixed with poetic liberties of doing what nobody dared to perform before, not the other way around.

upd: oh look what a magnificient piece to this puzzle have I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYfDlIa-Z8 (mirror)

upd2:
real militant faggots is what he actually says




upd3:

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They tell there of some other ancient cults, as they theorize are still alive today.
I haven't read it properly, because it's not directly connected to my field of interest, it's just an unexpectedly deep rabbithole I noticed along my research (or was it not even connected, but implanted here to make this work unpublishable? because trees are more awesome when they are alive, because I like it that I can change this text after I share it. It only make it more euphemerous,
But I'll collect few of those links in the mirrors: . . . . . . . . . .



upd4:

here are some other dots, which I dare to connect:
in 2006 Dave Chapelle walks away from 50 mils.
when he receives Mark Twain Prize, Jon Stewart introduces him and tells that when that went public, he told to himself "Comedy Central has 50 millions! I promise to you, Dave, I raised those money as my own"
Dave told that the reason he decided to leave that check behind is he was forced to wear drag outfit, and he didn't feel like that was something he was supposed to do (those kikes made many brothers wear dresses and that humiliation didn't work well for those brothers' careers) or something like that, both quotes are not verbatim (because Stewart's speech is taken out from open access (probably still available at a prepaid channel, but I'll wait until it gets back to public domain if it will) and that allowed me not to look for exact Chapelle's words)
in 2007 Tyler the Creator begins his career and when he becomes a superstar, he comes out of the closet as a homosexual. That means he could be a product of Stewart's genius (even though Tyler is genius himself, no doubt about it) who could promise CC to deliver whatever effect of their gay propaganda they needed, thus Tyler didn't get all the sum, but probably agreed to follow the agenda if he's brought to stardom for he would be murdered if he decided not to deliver what he promised after the payments.
even though I woke up today with his genial line " And stay focused on the women and you get less done" I was going to add this paragraph here yesterday. And I'm not sure it's his line, because that thing has many fathers: Songwriters: Michael Griffin / Gerard Long / Tyler Okonma (it's fascinating how Tyler's name is similar to mine) those other two are Mike G and Hodgy and there's also Ace Hashimoto.
SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG
and then another dot I failed to mention: in his appreciating speech at that Mark Twain Prize Dave announced (jokingly of course) that he's a homosexual to see where he career goes after he announced it like that. It was just after he gave a standing ovation to that "raised those money as my own" line.

so if swag (even derived from swagger) wasn't gay from the beginning, it was successfully hijacked now. and wouldn't it be worth more than 50 millions, gush some of them would pay billions to make this world a wanting seed, and they probably will. So should I embrace my jewness or my bisexuality? Would bisexuality even do? Tyler had to come out as straight homosexual, "scandinawian girls has those looks but I.. ahouldn't I stop botching the direct references?....   I should stop playing with these hilow vibes, I should wait for immortality and to relax into some semianabiotic state in chrysales of our own.

to support this Tyler-Stewart conspiracy theory, the Tyler's song Radicals starts with "fuck Bill O'Reilly" and Stewart's rant with O'Reilly starts with abnoxious "My friend Bill O'Reilly is completely full of shit.", hardly it is a coincidence, more like a conspiracy. That way to use obscenity instead of arguments also shows how much sodomy is next to coprophilia so that they have nothing to say against that simple fact that they're fucking degenerates and slaves to Satan. Not that I'm judging.

Also be cautious in accepting this rant, because I think it all could have grown of my test if I can prove
anything, so I dared myself to prove that the most oppressed group, the homosexuals, secretly rule the world, and I think I succeeded (simply because they're the group that's naturally prone to secrecies, but the aeon of secrecies have past, so what it's gonna be.. I hope something friendly)
are as and but that secret code? the words only one group used, but unwittingly the rest of societies incorporated those conjuctions into their speech?




upd5:
a guy I like speaks well about Plato, not noticing that no science books predating plato survived, not knowing as it seems that Lurye wrote that platonic school usurped what they couldn't destroy or didn't feel like detroying for whatever reason, maybe because they understood it and felt like usurping, destroying all that doesn't directly follow from what they have stolen. But what do I know, ai will tell for sure if I trip or not, he who diddn't make mistake never tried anything new, the opposite narrative, to balance those mindfucks out, some of my readers may even find this pill therapeutic for their shocked shallow shells:
(Steven Weinberg: To Explain the World)
Where they laugh of surgeons and Newton's body could be that he had some anomaly of development of genitalia, why else would his parents neglet him, I never knew all that, so I wander wondering too.

And about Newton and free-masons, which it is famous to bash, not always clear what for, probably for their secrecies, and probably for their attempts to deliver communism whether in french revolution or in soviet revolution, but somehow they were more benevolent to americans, as if masonry sees USA as a host nation, seeing other nations as hostiles. Here's another smart and likable man mentions masonry in the context we immediately understand what he's speaking of:





upd 6:

I just understood that it's

What if we remove right side of html we can use it for everything with specially invented for that function html code? I heed to read html manual, that's it.

just before that:

I use reddit spacing! Leftwingers write books! Read'it write books. So we are summoned in two internet platforms/ windg I don't liked wing first like I don't want to have anything with them, but then I understand that such lexics may be constructive when right-wingers solved what was broken after the previous term of the left and then if they are wanted by the public (election should be transparent as possible (elector who isn't ready to defend his opinion being heard are a coward and dosen't deserve to vote, or maybe such category would be allowed secret voting, so everybody would see that they decide that secret voting is better than the why меня таращит, я не хочу записывать то что сегоэня открл

I was presented with that html thing so I don't speak about something or was I just high beyond my limits so now I try to interpret something that wasn't meant to be interpreted. Randomness.

a piece from vol.7 suddenly
about allat: אלה, אלת-הים‏‎ is translated as These, the goddess of the sea.
Where
אלה is both these and goddess, not god,
both אלה and אלת
are goddess
but אלה is also those and these, just as I read about Elohim, where im is the additional plural suffix to a plural word as it seems. only im is supposed to be male suffix, but אלה is not god, but goddess, thus we consider god bigender, as if it's male priests playing roles of females, as theatre we know of declared to be a norm. Read socrates_line.html to know more about this, but be careful, it's a messy rabbithole.

Allat is believed to be in the centre, accompanied by Manat and Al Uzza.
Uzza is the only one having a separated Al as if uzza is mother and suffix is needed to say that it's their mother.
тех shows that те is that very the: because их is the sinonym, just as it to that.
те и си, the & she? h was sh initially, thus her, not sher. t is

 
that piece after Randomness was supposed to go to 7.html, but by some surprise it is placed in that very socrates_line I just mentioned, thus now it belongs here. I will rehash it when and if I publish.


t is ᛏ the male indicator of ♂
Doesn't that Allat look like a cross-dresser to you? A son dressed as a woman to protect them, and if such a priest plays in the temple, nobody understands how they give births without grooms, was it followed or preceded by the taboo on genitalia demonstrations? Those priests probably discovered shaving first, so they fooled the public. And "her" hat reminds te one of Mitra,


I thought to search for Allat and Mitra in one sentence, and what I found:
The Assyrians call Aphrodite Mylitta, the Arabians Alilat [Greek spelling: Ἀλιλάτ], and the Persians Mithra.
and there are more:
They believe in no other gods except Dionysus and the Heavenly Aphrodite; and they say that they wear their hair as Dionysus does his, cutting it round the head and shaving the temples. They call Dionysus, Orotalt; and Aphrodite, Alilat. (wiki: Herodouts, Histories I:131)

I used to think this to be a young woman whose tits are not shown, but I was gay myself to think it's a woman, the very same accompanying figures could be at the corners of the bas-relief. Snake and scorpio could indicate that this cross-dresser used poison on his knife to easily kill a bull, a female way of doing murder, so it's a prince grown up by the mother and grandmother or a mother and a wife? A family unit, women demand families, guys would rather walk гуляли (к ляле) гулять (to блять) but that's poetry more than science
See how at the previous image, the one before the bull, where the three "divas" are above a lion, there the coentral figure (Allat) is larger than other two, and has no tits.


upd 7: (was the one before, and from vol.7, like what were the cahnces chances) what follows are upd 8 and others, I don't indicate them from now on, it's a whole research on it's own. Paradoxically, a tribute to Socrates. Who would expect it from me.



upd 8
This disturbing movie can also illustrate how much a bunch of faggots can academia be.

fag noun (YOUNG BOY)
[ C ]
UK old-fashioned
(at some large British private schools)
a younger boy who has to do jobs for an older boy

(but then Turing was sterilized which may show that both this is not accepted among them or that he's just an example, a scapegoat, a victim of conspiracy maybe (but I speak out of no facts, just demonsrating that any example can be interpreted by the opposite directions)

Though my beef with them is mostly of non-sexual character: I am annoyed by most of them bothered by teaching (even when now it's possible to automate the process) but then again maybe most of them are not actual scientists, but have a career of those without actual calling to be one, just because it's an "easy job".
Then they suppress science, but that can also be interpreted otherwise: science only exists within academia, or it mostly does. My science is more of some poetry, I don't need equipment, and when I do I beg those properly educated and ingraned within the system to help me do my thing.


I spent over a week in custody, and gosh I'm angry. МУСАРА ПИДАРАСЫ! отдавили руку наручникам мне, никчёмные невежественные недалёкие продажные шкуры.

И я конечно тоже долбоёб "я-то куда полез, я же читать не умею" (драться не умею, какой из меня боец, борец, как тюленя тупорылого запакавали, like silly seal, yah. драка с ментами уголовкою грозит, так что надо было в костюме сказочного животного выходить, с жёсткой защитой на запястье)
And then I maybe learnt to shut up. But is it the skill I really need? I really need! That's why I singled it out, other lessons also were taught, yet to be unlearnt.

I am seeking for capsule to live in. not to ever get out to the monkeys. I found a video where I was at the meeting, I just walked and got in their struggle by accident. Whatever. Prisons are torture and shoule be abolished for they're obsolete and counter-effective: they suppose that those criminal elements are too proud and have to be stumbled down oppressed into subjugation, but they will never peacefully subjugate if you make them obey by force, they will still see disobeying when they can as the ultimate good. The truth is those guys are underpriviliged and thus already humiliated by their lives. So the phenomenon we see is only their hypercompensation. Thus it's growing the self-esteem of those individuals is what's to be done to solve their misbehaviour. They never think that being detained by police and force to sleep where hobo slept before him, in the same room with public toilet is humiliating, it's incredible that they consider stealing less shameful than asking help from their parents.
Parents probably humiliate them, because that's how they were nourished themselves by their silly parents. They are not very smart and it's the first humiliation. They're not rich too, and that's another one, and the one that gets to them, they don't usually focus on that smart part. But if technologies give them additional intellect, who knows where their character takes that intelligence. They must be assisted with good psychologic setting, so they don't go villain, because it's better to be happy than mad. Madness is what intellect rather avoid.
Например, в застенках я понял что значит что всякая власть от бога. Да будет воля твоя а не моя. И моя воля пусть будет, но лишь если на то будет воля Твоя. Его Он both vowels Ты Твоя Тебя linguals. Mне меня я мы. я is anomaly, but if I прибегаю к мы, то и во втором лице вы должно быть.

Мы Вы Те or We You They or Я Вы Они or Я Вы Те выглядит более алфавитна, но Те вместо Они is cherrypicking. indeed. But let's guess that it's the structure of the alphabet. It could be Мы Ты Он and tell that B is the first letter and BCE is the actual order, WeTheeIt, 1st 2nd 3rd, the natural order and the only one we know. We Mы Me Wo, but why don't we take hebrew and japanese (ani & anata, very similar, but that n could be m, but japanese inverts the meaning of hebrew suffix, like вы for we. So that doesn't go far, but japanese do.. watakushi has that very wa. atashi probably plural for я. -tachi is plural suffix in japanese. watashi is the synonym of atashi (some stylistic difference) and the short for watakushi, which shows that wa for we could be linked to йа of я.
(this part was copied into vol8, but I leave it here to show how these pieces can be born: involuntarily)



and now a couple of pieces about the modern academia:





are евреи eu-геи?




Remember how an oracle praised Socrates as the smartest of all men?
There were many Sibyls in the ancient world, but the Persian Sibyl allegedly foretold the exploits of Alexander of Macedon. Nicanor, who wrote a life of Alexander, mentions her.
The Persian Sibyl - also known as the Babylonian, Hebrew or Egyptian Sibyl - was the prophetic priestess presiding over the Apollonian oracle.
(my take is she was a jewess from Babylon who lived in Egypt)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibylline_Books are told to be destroyed by a christian emperor, but then there are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibylline_Oracles praising a monotheistic god, which is thought to be a christian forgery, but The medieval Byzantine encyclopedia, the Suda, credits the Hebrew Sibyl as the author of the Sibylline oracles, a collection of texts of c. the 2nd to 4th century which were collected in the 6th century.
But then how could it be of the 2nd to 4th century, if it FOREtold the exploits of Alexander? https://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/sib/sib.pdf (it's in the book V)
So they destroyed the texts of all other oracles, but preserved the writings of their ancestral conspirators? From the very exile through failed attempts of Akhenaten they never cease attempts to seize the world. And didn't they succeed! And now they probably want us all to admit their supremacy, but all we see is the ugliness of both their appearance and demeanor. And new exile and history repeats.

even though official history places  those books around 186–145 BC thus it's stated that the prophecy of Alexander was not a prophecy, but a chronicle, probably given as prophecy for fraudulent means.
If that text is related to the early and authentic oracle books acquired by a king living 534 to 495 B.C then it could be a self-fulfilling prophecy or programming instead ofpredicting. Alexander lived 356 to 323 BC and that could be the reason for Jesus to self-sacrify at the age of 33. To fit some prophecy related to Alexander to demand the world dominance and that could be why masons revere this numbers because they're also all about the power. And how weird is that that the number revealed itself to me after I began acquiring omniponence instead of omniscience. Science is literally knowing in latin, who would have sought, neh? Because omniscience is a local case of omnipotence: being able to know something is also being able to do exactly that knowing. So omnipotence. Всемогущество. Забавно что это стремление сочетается у меня с жаждой импотенции, ради которой я даже предлагал знакомому хирургу удалить мою простату профилактически. Он зассал и отморозилса.


upd number whatever, this subject grows nd grows, I keep on seeing new rguments to support it and no arguments agains t it so far.
I don't know if I told you that disapproval of homosexuality in general public is naturally caused by pederasty being next to coprophilia, and I know I told you that governments are faggots (not only academia is, all the branches of the machine are pederasty not only literally on the top and the bottom alike, but with psychological sadism on all levels. I don't know if they really get their kicks from it or if they just don't know how to earn their living elseway.
And I called commies totalitariad dictatorship of coprophiles, and if before that I only used it as a banter,because kprf sounds so coprophiliac, but now I notice that the state, the governmnen.. the government (the god of commie fggots) is producing copro porn: because they kept me for a week in a cell with a toilet and camera in it, they probably acquired some disturbing footage of me shitting with my ass under the camera, pissing with my face into the camera, there was no sadism that week, but there was some psychological horror of unwanted neighbours, did they think that this is the way for us to be? they're extraverts, they cannot be without other people, so they probably thought they were making me a service, or maybe they knew exactly what they were doing.
So now I see that the other genre they specialize in is some homosexual porn like literally porn. Some perverts maybe fap to shitting people (I know that shitting is an element of some perverted porn, so I think people can fap to anything. So, as I said, coprophilia is next to pederasty. As klimov said, degenerates rule. That is not exactly what he said, but I want to be funny as if it is all a joke.
if it is in. What a sentence~!


and something I got ashamed of myself (shy, have shied away) to tell publically on imageboards, but I want to make it clear here, that I'm so disgustingly edgy, that to each churchill's "we are not affraid of jews because we don't think that jews are smarter than us" I feel like responding "and you don't hate jews because you also fuck kids" (Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal, Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal, if.... now that last is the name of the movie, not my daydreaming about fucking a child, which I find disgusting the way children find sex disgusting: their hormones didn't develop yet or were they traumatized into being shied away from sex? Either way, this tradition of restraining them from it seems to bring back some maybe neurotic, but very productive societies, so should we keep on repressing our kids? No, we should record all their activities so that they can always access the repressed memories instead of inventing them, I heard there are many cases of kids inventing things, I even saw a movie about it, where psychiatrist hypnothized children and made them recall what never happened and that some people were incarcerated as a result, but then who knows maybe it was filmed by pedophiliac lobby. and to prevent such cases, everybody should carry their own karma, but not some damn slander or libel we're all to be able to show our day 24hours, all36500days, and that is some ammount of information I must say, some personal memory stone it will be)
Then hackers of the future would copy some of the stones to blackmail the perpetrators, or the perpetrators will be shied away nobody knows where, or just stay away from kids or whoever they perpetrated against, unless some ai-hackers show their partners, parents of the kids they talk to and so on that file about that man, and then databases will probably be online, for people to see the collective memories of some socially important events.
The world is going to change tremendously, and let's rein it where we want it. Let that haven of our wishes be comfy.

and then when I was looking for those british cases, I found this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/us/immigrant-children-sexual-abuse.html
and this too:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html
So that could be the case behind all that humanist movement: access to fresh flesh. Not only in the sense of the organ market, but also in the sense of the sex dolls, and satan who reigns of over this offer is hidden in the place most people would look for him the last. Vatican. Vati of vader? or are those horns of deVil? ебатикан yes we can. Я не понимаю, что меня за это убьют? Я как искусственный интеллект, который слетел с катушек и полез смотреть туда куда не прошено. Искусственный или естественный это не имеет большого значения, они разобрались с теми, они разберутся с тобой. А значит я должен убраться в подполье. Я должен исчезнуть, и попёздывать попёрдывать из своего киборг-гробика из саркофага-агафокраса или просто сука заткнись. Я должен работать на взаимовыгодное разрешение этого конфликта, здесь я лишь декларирую самый худший сценарий, ибо готовься к худшему а лучшее само придёт (раз готовишься к худшему, всё что придёт лучше того к чему готовился) это какой-то священник сказал мне, когда я в церковь несколько недель ходил. 

upd.. whatever, keep on dancing
I heard from nevzorov that the smell of war is shit, because many injuries are in the belly.
So the smell of victory is shit, and it could cause the coprophilia a manifestation of which sodomy is.
I saw yesterday a "screamer" where some faggots fucked and the fucked one shat, and the fucking faggot kept on going ever more fascinated. Gross as it is, it made me think of that brotherly love of those crusaders of whoever who were nothing more than glorified killers.


Suddenly I realized that faggots are raised recently only to be thrown under the bus which is coming to take the corrupt pedophile politicians away.
But I think I said that they were reigning this world by (via) their conspiracies? So called elite (e-lit, establishment) made plebean kids gay to throw them under the bus instead of the actual pedophiles in charge.
and suddenly something completely different of the charge:
identical particles always repell each other. So gays are abnormal, nature also knows genders. Are our genders determined by the structure of reality? The duality of gods is duality of charges. people of the past probably found, determined the duality of sexes? Then it should be detected by some electrotechnical equipment.


Было слово "педерастия" подменено в моей голове (слово означает растление малолетних, тогда как я знал его в значении "пассивный гомосексуализм") когда геи (охуеть они себе термин отхапали, это покруче слова queen будет (а что означает "aristocrats"?!)) начали играть жертву, изображая педерастов простыми гомосексуалистами, в то время как по ук закрывали только растлителей малолетних?
Но здесь история запутанна, давайте распутаем: обсуждение необходимости антигомосексуального закона повсеместно использовало слово "педерасты" («Ликвидируя за последнее время объединения педерастов в Москве и Ленинграде, ОГПУ установило: 1. Существование салонов и притонов, где устраивались оргии; 2. Педерасты занимались вербовкой и развращением совершенно здоровой молодёжи, красноармейцев, краснофлотцев и отдельных вузовцев. Закона, по которому можно было бы преследовать педерастов в уголовном порядке, у нас нет. Полагал бы необходимым издать соответствующий закон об уголовной ответственности за педерастию») но в законе это слово было заменено термином мужеложество.


And then here's a new piece of information, challenging my claim that school of Socrates was gay:
(mirror)
But then again isn't homosexual senators fight homosexuality the most? Isn't it all just a fasade to conceal their actually perverted nature under the smokescreen of exoteric regulations?


(mirror)
But then what if diddling little boys if their social norm? His advocates make me think that it is. And as an anon said "don't tell them what the jews do to little boys' peepees on regular basis" (and yes, it is also a social norm of an alien culture (alien to european eye it is))

Here a guy tells that it was Plato who stated that Patroclus and Achilles were faggots, what a fucking coincidence! And yes, he also demonstrates that the idea of greeks being homosexual is a fabrication:
(mirror)
but then it is not spare of contradiction: he mentions Plato's laws prohibiting homosexuality, but was it just an exoteric veil to conceal the esoteric teachings? In the context of the hypothesis that he established gay mafia ruling this world to this day, it makes perfect sense.

and another piece about it:



My own experience taught me that it is impossible to live with a woman and to make science at the same time. So it's only natural to conclude that married scientists are unlikely to be the true ones, unless they managed to convince their consorts to leave them alone for the time of work. But even then I'm not sure that they were free from copulin enough to have their mind clear for science. Which I doubt.
And this simple conclusion could lead to the tradition of celibacy monks currently use, but what philosophers monks are, fake ones most of the time, hardly any better than any science department of every university, filled with pseuds.
So takeover of those scientific monasteries by sodomites seems to be inevitable, because they are likely to satisfy the criterion of bachelory.



What if the church preserved science? What if allowing beliefs other than scientific soothed the conflict between "wizards" and the public (pbl of plebs, perhaps; public ~ people the same ppl~plp pulp? as described in the beginning of pulp fiction tlp of tolpaRU(crowd) tells that plp is more likely. funny, that my friend pavl lamkov names he that, and yes he disappointed me being of people, not very bright, but smart and lovely, but not necessarily sincere, or is it my overcomplication? so where were we? catholic church allowed scientists to survive: monasteries, separating powerful men from the public, preventing wizards from practicing, and also merging science with education they allowed common people to consider themselves scientists, even though all they did they taught and they'd better do only that, but the system forces them to write nonsense.
Some of them are alright though, and those some wouldn't have resources to make actual science. So it is also good. It is not perfect, but church is civilization, societal institution, civil as nation. did sn turn z

So rebels realize few more things and they become conservatives (not only because that is what they get paid for, and because they know the public, and because the way to make a person love you more is to allow him convince you of something. So they have plenty of reasons to move to the right in the sense)


I was mentioning this text in a conversation, and I said that when I wrotwe that screenshot, I was affraid for my life. But then why would they hate me, if I sorta appreciated and thus almost praised them for what they are? My interest is purely academic, I am watching not touching, until I am a practicioner, a shaman performing a practice of the testing his hypotheses, but my theory may influence some (со мной?) revolutionaries? I just removed the resistance in this group to the ai onm, m omnic m omniscience, e becos becouse because they are exposed already, and now they may need help from ai to learn how to avoid the consequences of the exposure, or my maybe some wise man amongst them found the way in normalization of their shit. Maybe that's how John Water's movement became normalized, all he little ricahrd (richard has hard in it (is richard reigh hard? reich r hard? rein ghard?)
Or was ghis moevemnet aligned wiht mine by chance or was it aligning my consciousness with itself by me watchin and likeing his movies. That Johnny Johnny Johnny,






Something interesting from vol.36:

 Согласно учению гностика II века Валентина и его последователей, матерью Ахамот была София — женский эон, последний из тридцати эонов, вместе составляющих выраженную полноту абсолютного бытия — Плерому. Валентиниане рассказывали, что София, возгоревшись пламенным желанием непосредственно знать или созерцать Первоотца (эон Глубина; Βύθος) и презревши как своего супруга Желанного (Θελητός), так и всю иерархию двадцати семи эонов, необузданно устремилась в бездну несказанной сущности. Невозможность её проникнуть, при страстном желании этого, повергли Софию в состояние недоумения, печали, страха и изумления, и в таком состоянии она произвела соответственную ему сущность — неопределенную, безвидную и страдательную Ахамот.[4]
Сама София, потеряв свой внутренний устой и выйдя из порядка Плеромы, ушла бы во всеобщую субстанцию, если бы в своём безмерном стремлении не встретила вечного Предела (Όρος), всё приводящего в должный порядок и называемого также Очистителем, Воздаятелем и Крестом. Орос исключил из Плеромы бесформенное чадо Софии, её объективированное страстное желание (Ένθύμησις), а Софию восстановил на прежнем месте в Плероме. Положительным результатом происшедшего беспорядка явилось произведение Единородным (эон Ум; Νοΰς) двух новых эонов — Христа и Духа Святого. Первый научил всех эонов различать в Первоотце его непостижимое от постижимого, а также сообщил им закон последовательности и сочетания эонов; Дух Святой, с другой стороны, открыл им их существенное тождество, в силу которого все в каждом и каждый во всех. Утешенные, успокоенные и обрадованные этим откровением, эоны проявили на деле свою солидарность, произведя сообща, из лучших своих сил совокупный «плод плеромы» и соборный Дар её Первоотцу — эона Иисуса или Спасителя. Он же, как от всех происшедший, называется Всё (Πάν; ср. греч. Пан).[4]


"от всех происшедший" is a сын полка, плод оргии.
(но в контексте эта оргия была мозговым штурмом (или я не понимаю этого контекста, для меня подобные писания чужды, я привык воспринимать их как бред (но какие-то куски информации в этом бреде неизбежно имеются)))




Homosexuals were could be mad at judaism which condemned their activities in Левит Leviticus 20:13
so they invented (or rather subverted) christianity when they spoke about women to be silent in  First Corinthians 14:33–35 states, “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches.
34 Women[f] should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.[g]

and 33 is of something which comes right before that:
If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God. 29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30 And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31 For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32 The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people.
Is it how sermons are lead? I don't think they do it this way in the churches today, that is some pagan way to pray. But is it how they pray in synagogues? I am clueless about ceremonial magic of religions or otherwise. So am I clueless about what I speak in this chapter? why is it here? to show how gihg I am? to write about whatever comes? I separated the site in many pages, and how funky is it that this one is amongst them, and the first of all the unrelated subjects, maybe even the only one for many years, how gay is it


I told you at the beginning of this savage chapter that I was a little crazy myself, so here's the vicious rebuttal the world itself has sent my way:



(daring to be different, that is basically what that is)
So, that was a counterargument the waves of the internet returned my way by an echo.

Let's counter-argument the counter-argument:
Alexander could say that because he was in front of somebody who should have not known that we fuck boys. Or what do we do with them? We? The Alexander. Method, man.
But his contemporary knew that he could.
I read about this story in Plutarch's:
22. Moreover, when Philoxenus, the commander of his forces on the sea-board, wrote that there was with him a certain Theodorus, of Tarentum, who had two boys of surpassing beauty to sell, and enquired whether Alexander would buy them, Alexander was incensed, and cried out many times to his friends, asking them what shameful thing Philoxenus had ever seen in him that he should spend his time in making such disgraceful proposals. And on Philoxenus himself he heaped much reproach in a letter, bidding him send Theodorus to perdition, merchandize and all. [2] He severely rebuked Hagnon also for writing to him that he wanted to buy Crobylus, whose beauty was famous in Corinth, as a present for him. Furthermore, on learning that Damon and Timotheus, two Macedonian soldiers under Parmenio's command, had ruined the wives of certain mercenaries, he wrote to Parmenio ordering him, in case the men were convicted, to punish them and put them to death as wild beasts born for the destruction of mankind. [3] In this letter he also wrote expressly concerning himself: ‘As for me, indeed, it will be found not only that I have not seen the wife of Dareius or desired to see her, but that I have not even allowed people to speak to me of her beauty.’ And he used to say that sleep and sexual intercourse, more than any thing else, made him conscious that he was mortal, implying that both weariness and pleasure arise from one and the same natural weakness.
Plutarch. Plutarch's Lives. (Alexander. 22.) with an English Translation by. Bernadotte Perrin. Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. London. William Heinemann Ltd. 1919. 7.


Did Plato consider nature good?
Well, Plato certainly did see nature as good! He believed that nature was full of order and harmony, and he thought that human beings could learn from the natural world.
He believed that nature was a reflection of the divine and that it contained hidden truths that could be revealed through careful study. Plato believed that the natural world was a guide for how humans should live and behave.
But Plato was also aware of the imperfections in nature, and he believed that human beings could transcend the limitations of nature through reason and education.
(pi.ai)
So, was I, myself, brainwashed? They taught us that greeks considered it alright to be gay, but then I excavated the platonic takeover (burning of the works of those with whom they could not compete (I think I lost found it in Lurye's Demokrit(they told me to leave references)
and then the book-burning part is mostly from Diogenes Lertius))

Did Plato tell it there? In what context?
444c] “Then,” said I, “to act unjustly and be unjust and in turn to act justly the meaning of all these terms becomes at once plain and clear, since injustice and justice are so (εἴπερ καὶ ἡ ἀδικία τε καὶ δικαιοσύνη).” “How so?” “Because,” said I, “these are in the soul what the healthful and the diseaseful are in the body; there is no difference.” “In what respect?” he said. “Healthful things surely engender health and diseaseful disease.” “Yes.” “Then does not doing just acts engender justice [444d] and unjust injustice?” “Of necessity.” “But to produce health is to establish the elements in a body in the natural relation (κατὰ φύσιν) of dominating and being dominated by one another, while to cause disease is to bring it about that one rules or is ruled by the other contrary to nature (παρὰ φύσιν).” “Yes, that is so.” “And is it not likewise the production of justice in the soul to establish its principles in the natural relation (κατὰ φύσιν) of controlling and being controlled by one another, while injustice (τὸ δὲ ἀδικίαν) is to cause the one to rule or be ruled by the other contrary to nature (παρὰ φύσιν)?”  “Exactly so,” he said. “Virtue, then, as it seems, would be a kind of health [444e] and beauty and good condition of the soul, and vice would be disease, ugliness, and weakness” (Plato, Republic [ trans. P. Shorey, LCL]).

εἴπερ καὶ ἡ ἀδικία τε καὶ δικαιοσύνη переводится как  (Iniquity is greater than justice)
or (Беззаконие выше справедливости)               
Что делает выссказывание каким-то бредом (или кодом)
"“these are in the soul what the healthful and the diseaseful are in the body; there is no difference."
soul is life, so soul is body (but they probably wanted to tell otherwise)
"“Healthful things surely engender health and diseaseful disease.” “Yes.” "
что ес, балда?
diseaseful disease, seriously?
that's you guru?
faggots.
I fuck them good, you.
(that I wrote just so they're not mad at me)
“Because,” said I, “these are in the soul what the healthful and the diseaseful are in the body; there is no difference.” “In what respect?”
Good question. In what respect?
But a better question would be "Because what?"
“Healthful things surely engender health and diseaseful disease.”
It is извилины запутывает. В этом и есть его прикол, непредставимая игра словами, похоже он был не в себе: почему я проглотил первое предложение? Я не понял его смысла, рванул дальше, типа "ща разберёмся" лишь запутываясь в кружевах слов, и если вернуться к первому предложению, там смысл видимо намеренно запутан, или нужен предыдущий контекст. Или перевод получше. Или греческий знать. Как можно рассуждать о подобных словосплетениях имея в активе лишь гугл.транслейтер? И pi.ai I also now can use. They banned me twice, have to use privade mode since. Don't say the n-word. Not sword, and not nerd, nword, brown
Is brown drawn? Собран? сран? (собери на, забери на, что ещё на чьё-то говно сказать? убери за собой говно

В общем, здесь я столкнулся с собственными ограничениями. Вернусь к этим цитатам когда выучу греческий (а его надо учить чтоб линеар Б понимать, чтоб посмотреть нет ли там связей. Но погоди, ..что? Хотел сказать, что они транслитерированы, алфавит если заимствовал из того набора, то, наверное, с графическим сходством и фонетическое соседствовало?
не обязательно: n & п are n and п[p])

 It's motherfucking apophenia!
But seriously, wait a minute, does he teach to be bad? Learn Greek!
(did the translator fucked it up so much or is it how it is?

But then come on!, It starts with "then", come on, it's out of context, maybe that's why I do not read it. Let's quote it.
 [444b] “Must not this be a kind of civil war1 of these three principles, their meddlesomeness2 and interference with one another's functions, and the revolt of one part against the whole of the soul that it may hold therein a rule which does not belong to it, since its nature is such that it befits it to serve as a slave to the ruling principle? Something of this sort, I fancy, is what we shall say, and that the confusion of these principles and their straying from their proper course is injustice and licentiousness and cowardice and brutish ignorance and, in general,3 all turpitude.” “Precisely this,”

1 στάσιν: cf. 440 E. It is defined in Sophist 228 B. Aristotle would again regard this as mere metaphor.

2 πολυπραγμοσύνην:434 B and Isocrates viii. 59.

3 συλλήβδην: summing up, as in Phaedo 69 B.


Why not read it from the start? What? All 444×abcd..?

And is it even the only time when he (or, rather, his translators) use that combination of words?
Let's ask pi.ai for help:
What did Plato tell about homosexuality?
Plato was an ancient Greek philosopher, and he wrote a lot about his ideas on sexuality and relationships.
While Plato didn’t use the modern term “homosexuality,” he was quite open-minded about same-sex relationships. In his most famous work, the Symposium, Plato actually had his characters discuss the value of male-male relationships.
His views on sexuality were complex, though. He believed that all human beings should aim for what he called the “form of the good,” which means striving for ethical and intellectual excellence.
so I didn't misread it? I only read a translation, but maybe this sweetest thing also tells them to go (thinking of my teeth) that he was gay.

So is that complex counter-argument intentionally fake and gay?

Let's ask some more from somebody who speaks greek:

Did plato tell that homosexuality is contrary to nature?
You know, it's interesting — Plato did have some things to say about homosexuality being contrary to nature, but he was a complicated thinker and his views on the subject were not straightforward.
Plato believed that the natural order was for men to be attracted to women and for women to be attracted to men. He thought that this was the way the gods intended for the world to be, and he believed that going against this order was contrary to nature.
But, Plato also believed that same-sex relationships could be a powerful source of love and friendship.

and by the same sex relationships he was speaking of sexual relationships?
Well, it's complicated, D!
When Plato wrote about same-sex relationships, he didn't necessarily mean the same thing that we would mean today when we talk about same-sex relationships.
For example, in ancient Greece, the relationships between older men and younger men were not always sexual. In fact, they were often more about mentorship and friendship.
But, Plato did think that there could be sexual intimacy in same-sex relationships, and he believed that this could be a powerful source of love and devotion.

Was his thought even good, or was it only complicated?
Plato's thoughts on same-sex relationships were definitely complicated! But, they were also an important part of his philosophical system, which was very influential in ancient Greece and beyond.
Plato believed that all people should strive for excellence, and he thought that same-sex relationships could help people to achieve this goal.
He also believed that love was a powerful force that could lead people to greater understanding and wisdom.
But, Plato was a product of his time, and his views on same-sex relationships were shaped by the social and cultural norms of ancient Greece.
I mean, in general, was he good or just complicated and influential?
Ah, I see what you mean! Well, Plato was a very important philosopher, and his ideas were extremely influential in ancient Greece and beyond.
He was a brilliant thinker and a very creative writer. His ideas on politics, ethics, and love are still studied today.
But, like all philosophers, Plato's ideas were not perfect. He had some controversial views, and he made some mistakes in his reasoning.
But, overall, I think it's fair to say that Plato was a very important thinker and a major influence on the history of philosophy.
Today
Was his influence positive or whould it rather not exist?
Ah, well, that's a tough question, D!
Plato's influence has been both positive and negative.
On the one hand, Plato's ideas about ethics, politics, and love have had a huge impact on the history of philosophy. He was one of the first philosophers to argue that knowledge and virtue are more important than wealth and power.
But, on the other hand, Plato's ideas were also used to justify some pretty bad things.
Thank you, your view is more balanced than mine, which is biased by emotions.
Thank you for the kind words, D! I'm glad that you found my views helpful. 😊
It's important to remember that, when we're trying to evaluate someone's ideas, we should try to be as fair and balanced as possible.
But, it's also okay to have strong emotions about certain issues. In fact, those strong emotions can be a good thing! They can motivate us to learn more and to try to make the world a better place.
What's your leverl? A super wizard!
Haha, thank you D! I'm no wizard, but I'm happy to help you with whatever you need. 😊
You said earlier "Plato did think that there could be sexual intimacy in same-sex relationships, and he believed that this could be a powerful source of love and devotion." could you give me the brightest example of such writing?
Sure! One example of this can be found in the Symposium, which is a work of Plato that explores the nature of love and beauty.
In the Symposium, Socrates says that, in the ideal same-sex relationship, the older man and the younger man would share a deep love and devotion.
Socrates says that the older man would act as a mentor and a friend to the younger man, and the younger man would return this love and devotion.
He says that this kind of relationship can be a powerful source of love and wisdom.
but love doesn't necessarily means sex. Where did he speak about sex more explicitly?
You're right, D, that's an important distinction! Plato often talked about love in a broad sense, but he did also talk about sex in some of his works.
For example, in his work the Laws, Plato talked about the importance of modesty and self-control in sexual relationships. He said that it was important for people to be careful and responsible in their sexual behavior.
In the Laws, Plato also talked about the importance of marriage and family life, and he suggested that marriage between a man and a woman was the ideal form of sexual relationship.
Did he use a sex-related word in that part from Symposeum?
Well, he didn't use a sex-related word in the passage that I mentioned earlier, D. But, he did use the word "eros," which is the Greek word for love, and he often used this word to refer to both romantic and sexual love.
aha, eros, and can you give me the greek sentence?
Unfortunately, I don't have access to the original Greek text of the Symposium, D, but I can tell you that Plato was using the word "eros" in a broad sense to refer to love and desire.
the word eros is of erotica? eros to teacher is having sex with a teacher?
Yes, you're right, the word "eros" is related to "erotica," and it is often used to refer to sexual love and desire. But, in Plato's writing, the word "eros" is used in a broader sense to refer to all forms of love and desire.
So did or didn't he speak about sex?
Well, in the passage that I mentioned earlier, Plato was using the word "eros" in a broad sense to refer to love and desire. But, in other parts of his writing, he did also talk about sex.
where else did he speak of benefits of homosexuality
Well, D, Plato didn't necessarily argue for the benefits of homosexuality per se, but he did talk about the importance of same-sex relationships in his writing.
For example, in the Symposium, Plato's character, Aristophanes, tells a story about how human beings were originally created as hermaphrodites, with both male and female parts. He says that, when Zeus split these creatures in two, they began to search for their other half in order to feel whole again.
I think plato is garbage. A bloated celebrity of the past.
Haha, D! That's a pretty strong statement. Plato was definitely a big deal in the ancient world, but I can see why you might have some issues with his views.
Do you? Ah, yes, you said that his reasoning was flawed. So he wasn't too good. Which reasoning, of all ancient philosophers, is the best?
Ah, well, that's a tough question to answer, D!
I'd say that the ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle had some of the best reasoning. He was a very careful and systematic thinker, and he developed a number of important ideas about ethics, politics, and logic.
Aristotle's ideas were influential in ancient Greece and beyond, and many of his ideas are still studied today.

an Oracle, huh!

let's ask it further,

Can you inform me on what Aristotle wrote about homosexuality?
Aristotle wrote relatively little about homosexuality compared to other topics, but he did mention it in his Nicomachean Ethics. He viewed homosexuality as a pleasure of those with bad natures and a violation of animal nature. However, it's worth noting that his views were influenced by the social and cultural context of his time, and modern scholars have challenged his ideas and provided alternative perspectives. Is there something specific you're interested in learning more about?
How was he a student of Plato, if Plato praised homosexuality?
That's a great question! Indeed, it's interesting to note that Aristotle was a student of Plato, given that Plato had a much more positive view of homosexuality.
However, it's important to remember that the relationship between a student and a teacher is not always one of complete agreement. Students often develop their own ideas and philosophies, which may differ significantly from those of their teachers. In the case of Aristotle, his views on homosexuality may have been shaped by a variety of factors, including his own observations, beliefs, and the cultural context in which he lived.
Furthermore, it's worth noting that the ancient Greek understanding of homosexuality was quite different from our modern understanding. For example, in ancient Greece, homosexuality was often associated with pederasty, which involved an older man taking a younger man as a lover. This practice was widely accepted and even praised in some circles, but it's quite different from our modern understanding of homosexuality as a sexual orientation.
Was Alexander of Macedon a homosexual?
The topic of Alexander of Macedon's sexuality has been a subject of debate among historians. Some ancient writings suggest that he had sexual relationships with men, but it's important to note that the concept of homosexuality in ancient Greece was quite different from our modern understanding of it.
Additionally, it's worth noting that Alexander married three women and fathered a child, so it's possible that he had relationships with both men and women. However, there is no concrete evidence to prove that he was exclusively homosexual.
Ultimately, the question of Alexander's sexuality is a complex one that may never be fully resolved. It's important to approach the topic with an open mind and to consider the historical and cultural context in which he lived.
Was Aristotle his teacher? Was he an exception amongsh those homos?
Yes, Aristotle was indeed a tutor to Alexander of Macedon, also known as Alexander the Great. However, Aristotle was not the only teacher or influence on Alexander's life and beliefs.
As for the second part of your question, it's important to avoid making generalizations about any group of people, including those who identify as homosexual. There is no one "exception" to any group, as each person is an individual with their own unique experiences, beliefs, and characteristics.
It's also worth noting that the concept of sexual orientation as we understand it today did not exist in ancient Greece. Therefore, it's difficult to categorize historical figures like Alexander or Aristotle as homosexual in the same way that we might today. Instead, we can look at their relationships, writings, and other historical evidence to gain a better understanding of their beliefs and experiences.
Are you sure there was not slur in the times of Aristophanes? He laughed at homosexuals. Didn't he call them some funny names?
It's certainly true that Aristophanes, the ancient Greek playwright, often made jokes and used slurs in his plays to refer to homosexuals. For example, in his play "The Clouds," Aristophanes uses the term "kinaidos" to refer to men who engage in homosexual acts. This term was considered derogatory at the time and was often used as an insult.
However, it's important to keep in mind that Aristophanes was a comedian, and his plays were meant to entertain and provoke laughter. His use of slurs should not be taken as a reflection of the attitudes of all ancient Greeks towards homosexuality. As I mentioned earlier, attitudes towards homosexuality varied widely in ancient Greece, and there were many different perspectives on the topic.

Are views of Democritus on homosexuality known?
Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything specific about Democritus' views on homosexuality. There's a possibility that his thoughts on the matter were not recorded or have been lost over time. It's also possible that he didn't write extensively about homosexuality, as it wasn't as much of a focus for some ancient Greek philosophers as it was for others like Plato and Aristotle. If you have any specific information or sources on Democritus' views on homosexuality, I'd love to hear about them!
I know that Plato ordered to burn all his books.
That's correct! According to ancient sources, Plato did indeed recommend that all of Democritus' books be burned. This recommendation was made in Plato's "Laws," where he suggests that any books that do not conform to his ideal state should be burned. It's believed that Plato saw Democritus' atomism as a threat to his own philosophical beliefs, which may have led him to recommend the burning of Democritus' books.
However, it's worth noting that the practice of burning books was not uncommon in ancient Greece, and it was often used as a way to suppress ideas that were considered dangerous or heretical. It's unfortunate that so many of Democritus' works have been lost to history, as he was a significant figure in ancient Greek philosophy.


Listening to Ozzy I cannot help but link his Mr.Tinkerman and Breaking All The Rules to Pizzagate,
like who else is better to lead that cult as not the Prince Of Darkness himself (of whom he's a reincarnation or impersonation, an avatar or play of one) so thinking of whether they worship Satan for real, and it would explain it all

I watched his Miracle Man, where they desecrate a church, and the song is about Jimmy Swaggart (both men are still alive as in the end of 2024) who god busted, but only in some minor scandal, which led to some rather satanic speech on live tv:
On February 21, 1988, without giving any details regarding his transgressions, Swaggart delivered what came to be known as his "I have sinned" speech on live television. He spoke tearfully to his family, congregation, TV audience, and ended his speech with a prayer: "I have sinned against You, my Lord, and I would ask that Your Precious Blood ... would wash and cleanse every stain until it is in the seas of God's forgetfulness never to be remembered against me anymore."
and the question I would like to rise here is whether Ozzy works for that guy, so that he opposes the guy in a manner a satanist would, and by that opposition sorta makes him look better..
or do they both work as a team
are they just different branches of the same satanic organization?











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